i recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate.
even today i posted on a thread about blood transfusions.. i just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?.
am i being punished by jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...i dont know anymore what to do.... things are getting too much, guess i should not have joked so much in my posts..
Thank you all,
Your comments make perfect sense, I feel a bit embarrassed. Just when you start making progress the WT training kicks in and your back to square one, blaming yourself or satan.
I hope I can be rid of this filth one day and just be me, but from reading my OP it seems sill far away.
Thanks for the hugs, i appreciate that.
I think I'm going to be absent for a while from the forum, to concentrate on the situation, best of luck to any of you with these JW issues.....hugs!
i recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate.
even today i posted on a thread about blood transfusions.. i just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?.
am i being punished by jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...i dont know anymore what to do.... things are getting too much, guess i should not have joked so much in my posts..
I recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate. Even today I posted on a thread about blood transfusions.
I just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?
Am I being punished by Jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...I dont know anymore what to do...
Things are getting too much, guess I should not have joked so much in my posts.
just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.
will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?
if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?
pale, you made me laugh. Now that you mention it.....Did Adam have a big bushy beard or was he created clean shaven? (like JW's require, at least when I was there.)
"And so through one man, did sin and beards enter into this world"
just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.
will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?
if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?
@Diogenesister
My main question would be: If there is no suffering or pain in paradise, would we loose our sense of empathy and what would happen to us if we did, what would paradise relationships be like?
Maybe they would be like the relationships currently within the wtorg: lacking empathy.
i hope bethel lurkers at warwick listen to the rational viewpoint of this australian woman in the recording below.
she virtually pleads with an australian branch member as to the reasons why shunning is inhumane and how unfair it is that individuals are being held captive within the watchtower organisation.
they can't simply leave officially without the threat of being shunned by friends and family members.. typically, the branch member responds in a robotic like manner, sticking rigidly to watchtower policy.. https://youtu.be/sc_t60ax5k8.
If you have the truth, and Gods holy spirit you should not fear any information that is contrary to your own. You should not fear your members being exposed to false information, you should not fear members being exposed to apostates or ex members or worldly people, because the truth and spirit will always win. This is truth and love: Not being afraid!
Yet the GB tries to keep itself and its members isolated and controlled, under the pretense it is to keep them pure, while back at the ranch its because they know their lies will be exposed, and in their hearts they know their darkness wont survive in the light.
Its like a child grasping and closing their ears and going la la la la la, so they cant hear what your saying. Sad.
just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.
will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?
if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?
In hindsight (no pun intended) the example of Bob may not have been a wise choice..apologies
just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.
will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?
if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?
Just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:
The more I think about it the less I like it to be honest!
i know we have all talked about this topic before, but for some new ones on the forum, or to refresh ourselves, i wanted to start this thread.. the society likes to go on about the sacredness of blood, and how it should not be transfused etc.. they liken it to a symbol of life itself.
something that should be respected and therefore not transfused.. but, what is more important: real life, or a symbol of life?.
an illustration came to mind.. if we give a bunch of flowers to a loved one as a symbol of our love for them, are those flowers more important than the love itself?
John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
Genesis 9:4 "Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
God is love.....Don't eat blood but show great love by giving your life(blood) to your friends..easy.
when you were an active member in the jwland, did you expect to receive any kind of help from a brother/sister, but they did not help you?
when i was in the jwland, i expected and was my belief that any brother/sister will help you in time of need, distress or trouble, because we were part of a "lovely organization".
but countless of times when i needed and asked for help, nobody from the org helped me.
The time my ex-wife cheated on me and left, I was very depressed. In my worst moments I phoned the elders assigned to my case and they did not answer, I felt alone and forgotten by Jehovah.
And this is the problem: When you make your organisation God, when the org lets down members, they feel forgotten and let down by God.
i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.
being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.
new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".
JustHuman14
For me my return was a surreal experience. The words from the podium lost their impact; goosebumps were replaced with nausea. I could see through the fake smiles and how are you's. For the first time I had my own opinion, and it made the meetings and watchtower study extremely frustrating. Even the simplest statement sent my mind racing. But the main thing was the emptiness of the whole exercise. It was like getting back into your old car that was rusted away. You put on layer and layer of new paint to try and keep it together, but the slightest bump and it falls apart.
My love and support goes out to you and all those in these situations! Be strong, you are not alone in this. There are people who care!
