in natural calamities, everyone (despite one’s faith) is affected.
when one denies god’s existence, he experiences no punishment from him.
when one worships him, he receives no special favor from him.
"means all scriptures have misrepresented Him"
"When I tried to copy this aspect of Him I found how much heart-break I was spared of."
Lets say I take a similar position, then without scripture and hearsay, what would I base my position on God on?
Are there some representative scripture I can use?
Thank you for taking time to explain.
in natural calamities, everyone (despite one’s faith) is affected.
when one denies god’s existence, he experiences no punishment from him.
when one worships him, he receives no special favor from him.
Great summary Venus,
I'm trying to gauge your position from this and other posts. I find it intriguing that you end with two choices: Majesty or non-existence.
What is your pick of the two?
I am in a place where I am not sure God even exists anymore, so things like this trouble me somewhat. I have issue with atrocities in the old testament, and at the moment I even consider Gnostic/dualism explanations (demiurge) more acceptable than the standard views on this violence.
Or is it better to just let God go? Help....please....
i was chatting with my very jw pioneer mother (aged 65) and out of the blue she tells me she is sore from a particular pose she did in yoga class.
"wait, what??
" i say in my mind.
Many witnesses practice watchtower-yoga (Woga). Bending over backwards to place a magazine, stretching the truth, downward dog in submission to GB, etc.
due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.
can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?
would hate to lose all those good videos!
Lol, WT flagged them for copyright infringement? If I was spreading the truth with the power of God's holy spirit I would want anybody to copy my material.
I always laugh when WT takes legal action; should they not just pray and leave things to Jehovah like they tell child abuse victims?
a thought occurred to me that most humans (whether they like to admit it or not) love to take a firm and proud stance on something, and love to be able to say to others "see, i told you so!".
this arrogance creates a proud and determined mindset to make people dig their heels in on a stance they have taken - all in the hope that they can one day be proven right, and therefore prove someone else wrong.. so it is with most witnesses.
they are so desperate to be proven correct after all they have invested in their faith, and they have a keen desire to say "see i told you so!".
People don't want to die, and religion feeds on this. If I don't believe with confidence, and look for those "See I told you so" moments to justify my position, I have to start facing the ever present fear that there is no God, and that when I die its all she wrote.
Most people choose confidence, arrogance and "See I told you so" even in the face of cognitive dissonance scenarios.
i had this point highlighted to me yesterday by a dyed-in-the-wool j.w.
who is beginning to see cracks in his beloved golden calf of warwick.
so encouraging to hear his disgruntlement with org-related topics.. “many in the christian congregation may not have expected their loved ones to die this side of armageddon.” (july 2017 study wt).
What baffles me is that anyone could influence peoples lives this way without any direct communication from God. All these claims are based on hearsay from ancient texts.
If the clouds opened over Pastor Russel, and the voice of the almighty spoke from heaven and instructed him to say and do the things he did, I would understand. But as is the case in all religions, this never happened. He and his replacements just interpreted the ancient texts (hearsay) and F'ed up millions of lives.
i went into my mother's office to leave her a small note to say that we love and miss her and would love to get together.
i found this on her desk.
this is jehovah's witnesses.
For most people their mothers are their anchors in life, the one you can always rely on to be by your side and support you. Jehovah's Witnesses deny many of us this.
Your disappointment is shared by many of us....hugs.
i never understood why the society was against beards or goatees but completely okay with mustaches.
what's the difference?
facial hair is facial hair, whether it's above your lip or around your cheeks or under your chin.
Maybe the GB was afraid that all the sh.t they want their members to talk would get caught in their beards and make the good news less appealing. Would be less of a risk with mustaches.
i recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate.
even today i posted on a thread about blood transfusions.. i just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?.
am i being punished by jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...i dont know anymore what to do.... things are getting too much, guess i should not have joked so much in my posts..
Thank you all,
Your comments make perfect sense, I feel a bit embarrassed. Just when you start making progress the WT training kicks in and your back to square one, blaming yourself or satan.
I hope I can be rid of this filth one day and just be me, but from reading my OP it seems sill far away.
Thanks for the hugs, i appreciate that.
I think I'm going to be absent for a while from the forum, to concentrate on the situation, best of luck to any of you with these JW issues.....hugs!
i recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate.
even today i posted on a thread about blood transfusions.. i just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?.
am i being punished by jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...i dont know anymore what to do.... things are getting too much, guess i should not have joked so much in my posts..
I recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate. Even today I posted on a thread about blood transfusions.
I just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?
Am I being punished by Jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...I dont know anymore what to do...
Things are getting too much, guess I should not have joked so much in my posts.
