i recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.
i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.
who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.
I remember when it first came out ... being a Watchtower history buff I just laughed when I read it. Then they updated it to hide errors and false teachings.
I remember in the early 90s we studied that book like 3 or 4 times. When it was announced at the Service Meeting I let out a huge groan, "not again!" LOL
this is similar to another post i saw..
Define "double life"
does anyone remember one of the videos on the jw broadcast, where the speaker actually prayed "in the name of michael, amen"?
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someone was asking about it on another forum, but no one can remember when it was or if we can locate it..
Say what?
there going to start using the zoom app for the meeting ,got to go a help my aged parents to set it up.. i'm not very good at the technical stuff is there any way of hiding your self on the app or is this a way of them checking to see who's listening to the meetings.. thought fading would have been easier during this virus.. thanks.
I was just going to ask if JW's are staying home and doing online meetings.
so i have an eye out for a couple of the more nefarious jw books from the past.
i look on ebay etsy and others.
i see that the older books are selling for a good price.
I was under the impression the halls disposed of the old literature.
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Back in the 80s I recall reading a letter to the congregation from the Society, the gist of it was about all the wonderful building work they were doing around the world, and that these headquarters needed a good theocratic library. They were telling the congregations to send in all literature prior to 1950, they specifically requested all books, booklets and magazines by Russell/Rutherford.
I was in the Bronx, NY at the time, and we had bethelites serving us, so they packed up the books themselves and took them.
In a conversation with Randy Watters, he admitted to me that the literature was destroyed.
RR
so i have an eye out for a couple of the more nefarious jw books from the past.
i look on ebay etsy and others.
i see that the older books are selling for a good price.
Rol Rod, what sort of corro do you have from Rutherford and was it published in any of the Watchtower publications?
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These were short notes that Rutherford would attached to letters sent to the Society asking specific questions on the Ezekiel portion of THE FINISHED MYSTERY that was authored by George Fisher
so i have an eye out for a couple of the more nefarious jw books from the past.
i look on ebay etsy and others.
i see that the older books are selling for a good price.
I made over 20K back in 2015 on ebay. Sold most of the JW books I had. I still have the original Watchtowers from 1892 to 1995. I'll be unloading them soon. Sold ALL the major books and booklets from the 1920-1975. Still have a box of the 192 page books from the 80s and 90s. I also have some rare items like correspondence from Rutherford and the original notes of George Fisher on his part of THE FINISHED MYSTERY. I'll eventually sell it all. ALL my pre Russell Adventist books, original William Miller, Nelson Barbour, etc
(referred to below: watchtower bible and tract society presidents: russell, rutherford, knorr, franz )did you know that from 1879 until 1954 ... ... the writings of c.t.russell, j.f.rutherford, nathan knorr, and the watchtower's own charter... ... agreed ... that jesus christ was to be worshiped?this fact has been cleverly and dramatically hidden by manipulation of older quotations.
______________________________________________________________________pastor charles taze russell answers the question for us.
see below zion’s watch tower 1898 jul 15 p.216“question: the fact that our lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was god the father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man.
Russell not only worshipped Jesus, he admitted that he prayed to him too.
QUESTION (1912)--3--Are you addressing your prayers only to the Father in the name of the Son?
ANSWER--Usually I follow that form of addressing the heavenly Father--only in the name of the Lord Jesus; but I have found myself in prayer addressing the Lord Jesus himself, for I find nothing in the Scriptures to contradict that, for they say to honor the Son even as we honor the Father. Nearly all the Scriptures follow that course of addressing the Father and I think of only one that is different "Even so, come, Lord Jesus."
What Pastor Russell Said, p 541
besides the media center they are going to build in n.y. it's been noted they are also building one and a studio in australia.
there is no way donations can cover these massive projects.
so the money will have to come from the sale of the remaining halls.
Close down all the Kingdom Halls, sell off the property, use the assembly halls as Mega Churches, by consolidating all the congregations who make up those circuits.
i left way back in 2002, seems a long time ago now and i haven't really kept up with any developments since.. i've kept one ear open and noticed recently there is talk of the wt being investigated over the sex abuse cover ups, but over the years this story has come in and out of the news.. what is everybody's predictions as to the future of the borg?
i know what most people want to happen, but realistically, are we just looking at certain elements being hit because of the restructuring they did a few years ago to protect from this very thing?
looking further ahead, you'd like to think that more people would wake up?
Consider the Worldwide Church of God, the church as Herbert Armstrong created is gone. After he died, the father and son team of Joseph Tkach Sr. and Joseph Jr. discarded ALL of Armstrong's teachings and it became mainstream. But Armstrong had diehard followers and some 350 offshoots, all claiming to continue his legacy were formed. If the Watchtower was shut down and went bankrupt because of all the lawsuits. The Jehovah's Witnesses would continue. Just like the Bible Students survived after Russell died.
RR
