Yep, always thought so. It kinda ruins the movies when I see that perspective while at the same time enlightening me into something not so unique or truthful anymore but pretty much same old.
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The Wizard of Oz
by I Faded Twice indoes anyone else see the similarities between the wizard of oz and the gb?.
it's kind of like when the curtain is removed and you find out it's all smoke and mirrors.
plus dorothy wakes up at the end!.
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For ACTIVE JW's: r&f JW's are 2nd Class Christians..........
by The Fall Guy in............according to your "faithful slave masters" -.
w10 1/15 p. 5 par 12 & footnote - "jesus’ “other sheep” will not become sons of god until the end of the thousand years.
however, (crap alert!
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Amelia Ashton, Read 1 Thess 4 and think about these.
The generation that will not pass Jesus spoke of is the one alive at Armageddon. They can stop the overlapping rubbish that a child wouldn’t even fall for on Xmas day if you wrapped it in shiny paper
Jesus hasn’t started his reign yet until after Armageddon and that’s when the anointed, all 144,000 of them at the same time are either resurrected to heaven or those who are alive will be taken away in the clouds. Verses 15-17. Remember when he said the first would be last and last would be first? How can the 1st to die be in heaven already if the last to die hasn’t died yet?
now consider the WT has taught that been anointed is an invitation at this stage as, rightly so, we are not to really know who really is anointed. So is it wrong to believe that Jehovah has sent out more than 144,000 invitations and after Armageddon will choose the final 144,000 once Christ is king. Google the governing body member who was a homosexual and pedophile. I think his invite was revoked. Imagine all those who died apparently anointed who may have skeletons and here we are thinking they’re in heaven already. doesn’t add up does it?
what happens when a king invades another’s kingdom? A war breaks out. If Satan is currently the ruler of this world and Christ began his reign in 1914, where’s the war? Wouldn’t that war be Armageddon?
I’ll leave you with those thoughts. Read 1 Thessalonians 4 and prayer for understanding. It’s a great gift to be awake.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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They signed up to the UN apparently under the guise to use their library which is public domain so it was totally unnecessary.
The Henrietta M Riley Trust for which the WT is beneficiary and where that trust invest money which then benefits the WT
This one to me is key because God IS love. He loved the world so much he gave his only begotten son so that all those exercising faith in him could be saved. Jesus said in John 13:35 “By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves” What are JWs known for? Door knocking, disfellowshipping (so the opposite of love), not birthdays and letting our kids die because of no blood. Only the WT will propagate that we are known for the love amongst ourselves but google JWs and you will see what the world knows. And what do people mention when we say we are JWs? Exactly, nothing to do with how loving we are.
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Expected pain
by former2free inlast week was a big week for me in terms of coming totally clean to my wife and her being more than on board to leave the jw’s with me.
we know what to expect but things happen from family and it still hurts just as bad.
last night my wife got a long text message from her brother that has seemed to be in the fence and he told her that same guilt tripping rhetoric that the wt uses about life in the paradise etc.
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It’s sad, undeserved and unnecessary. Perhaps don’t disassociate, just drift off. You’ll still get treated like an outcast to some degree but they will keep in touch somewhat. This is my life. Having said that, it kind of feels the same as been DFd because you know the reason they keep distance is because you no longer do as they do.
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Did You Ever Think You Would Be A Member On A Site Like This?
by minimus inwhen i first started looking at “apostate” sites , i was always watching over my shoulder, hoping no one would catch me viewing “spiritual pornography”.
i found these types of sites mesmerizing but i never thought i’d join one.... look at me now.😈.
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First time I ever posted on this site, the very first time I ever posted on anything that would be considered apostate, I had a massive adrenaline rush but I felt good about it too. It was liberating and scary all at the same time. My other half is a non believer though he accepts Jehovah as the one true God but will not follow the org so that was not an issue for me. He was asleep at the time and I couldn't wait till morning to tell him.
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JW Dogma Analysis For Lurkers & Faders to Consider
by The Fall Guy inthis post is necessarily lengthy, but my hope is that these 14 examples of wtbts dogma will be examined closely by those who either have something to gain by doing so, or those who can provide "new light" for any of the topics.. "however, you may say in your heart: “how will we know that jehovah has not spoken the word?” when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not....true, then jehovah did not speak that word.
you should not fear him.
" [the prophet] (deuteronomy 18:21-22) .
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Vidiot: He mentioned in Crisis of Conscience that when doctrinal issues came up, his GB peers would almost always defer first to what "The Society" had stated in the past, with scriptures a distant second.
It really bothered him.
This has bothered me too and led me to read Crisis of Conscience myself. Very awakening. Highly recommend it. And I still get the feeling that Ray Franz deeply loved Jehovah and when he awoke to the truth, he could no longer stand by the org. He does not come across to me as bitter and vengeful and will even admit when he stood by a teaching that he later realised was not scriptural that hurt a lot of people or when he simply went along in spite of his conscience simply to not rock the boat.
I was actually reading last night where he's going through all the info on 1914 .... what a mess that whole saga is and they continue to mess it up even worse with the whole generations. But all those old mags and books are not available to the R&F and I wouldn't be surprised if the GB took all the evidence to a dudes weekend camping trip somewhere in the wilderness of Warwick and had a massive bonfire. I sometimes wonder what my PIMI elder brothers (familial brothers, not spiritual) would say if they knew. But I think I know, they would shrug it off as old understanding and ignore that it's been repeated several times in the past 100 years. I can imagine smoke pouring out of their ears and their eyeballs bursting for having dared looked at it.
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GDPR Warning for the Org?
by The Fall Guy ina uk organization has been fined £200,000 for accidentally breaching the data protection of numerous individuals.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44872880.
how will jw branches/elders fare in the eyes of the law if they deliberately breach someone's privacy?.
uk elders/trustees, it may be time to take out liability insurance for yourselves!.
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Vidiot: Can't have "God's Earthly Organization" capitulating to "Satan's World", after all.
Yet Romans 13: "1 Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. 2 Therefore, whoever opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will bring judgment against themselves." Maybe they only abide by the worlds rules when it comes to appealing child sex abuse court cases where they've been ordered to pay damages?
I noticed when pasting the above scripture a spelling mistake in the word judgement. In Australia it needs an e after the g. Not sure if American english is different but this could explain why I have so many issues when using the search function on the jw app. Maybe they purposefully misspell words in the key scriptures so we can't find them.
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Little Gems From the November 2018 Study Watchtower
by The Fall Guy inquickly glanced through it and noticed these bits of "food at the proper time.
i'll leave the lap-dancing comment on page 25, par.
12 and the "how to give us more money" item on pages 28,29,30,31,32 for others to pick up on... page 16, par.
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Page 21, par. 13 - “The faithful and discreet slave” does not exercise control over the thoughts of individuals, and neither do the elders.
And they expect the publisher minions to actually swallow this???????
Unless you're been told to paint the KH with a 2" brush.
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New abbreviation POMOSI
by NeedToKnow ini was thinking that i’m not exactly pomo but more pomosi - physically out mentally out spiritually in.. anyone who is familiar with the life of raymond franz may understand what i mean.
so i haven’t been to meetings in a while and i’m so over the whole mind control thing but i do love jehovah and believe in his purpose for us.
the org doesn’t go about it properly imo so i have been doing my own reading and understanding.
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I was thinking that I’m not exactly POMO but more POMOSI - Physically Out Mentally Out Spiritually In.
Anyone who is familiar with the life of Raymond Franz may understand what I mean. So I haven’t been to meetings in a while and I’m so over the whole mind control thing but I do love Jehovah and believe in his purpose for us. The org doesn’t go about it properly IMO so I have been doing my own reading and understanding. There’s one other particular person who knows my thoughts who’s PIMI but beginning to wake up a little so we discuss stuff.
So I think POMOSI should be a new label for peo0le like me.
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A Chief of police who is shunned
by Giordano inmy wife and i have enjoyed a series of books by linda castillo.. the main character is chief of police kate burkholder.
she was born amish but left in her late teens.
she gets her life in order and becomes a police woman.
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A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin other ways knows as Game of Thrones. I had read the books before it made it to tv. The books are so much more involved. How someone can come up with such complicated and thrilling story lines and keep it together throughout is amazing.