sorry for the long post!.
what the watchtower society says:.
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Jeffro
There is no need to inform the Writing Committee of an error as none exists for what was stated in the Isaiah book is totally correct. The only error is on your part in your lack of comprehension.
You must read more widely and deeply
scholar JW
can anyone provide me with any evidence (links to other sites is fine) that jerusalem could not have possibly fallen to the babylonians in 607?
thanks again for your answers.
zico
Lady Liberty
I do have access to Grayson's work but what point are you trying to make by comparing his material with the Insight article on 'Nebuchadnezzer. Does Grayson's research accommodate the biblical 'seventy years' if not Why not? Because if the secular records do not accommodate the seventy years then such evidence is simply unreliable and must be treated with care in order to construct a biblical chronology.
scholar JW
can anyone provide me with any evidence (links to other sites is fine) that jerusalem could not have possibly fallen to the babylonians in 607?
thanks again for your answers.
zico
helppls
The date of 597 is wrong because it fails to account for the biblical fact of the seventy years which as a historic period of exile, servitude and desolation ran from the Fall in 607 until the Return in 537 BCE. This period of seventy years clashes with the supposedly astronomical fixed date of 587 or 586 BCE for the Fall. The date of 607 is derived directly from biblical history wheras 587 or 587 is based upon an interpretation of astronomical evidence which shows a twenty gap between the secular and biblical chronology.
The date 537 is in fact derived from the interpretation of astronomical evidence but his where methodology comes to the fore as the chronologist must select a method which agrees with the available evidence from both the secular and the biblical and in the case of the celebrated WT scholars have decide that the biblical seventy years must take precedence over so-called astronomical evidence .
scholar JW
sorry for the long post!.
what the watchtower society says:.
24 the book of truthful historical dates ***.
Heathen
Such views by celebrated WT scholar have already been published in the leading scholarly journal, The Watchtower.
scholar JW
can anyone provide me with any evidence (links to other sites is fine) that jerusalem could not have possibly fallen to the babylonians in 607?
thanks again for your answers.
zico
Lady Liberty
Yes I am a baptized Witness since 1964, first learning the Truth in 1958 and have been studying chronology since the early seventies.
Whether I count time for posting on this board is none of your business.
scholar JW
can anyone provide me with any evidence (links to other sites is fine) that jerusalem could not have possibly fallen to the babylonians in 607?
thanks again for your answers.
zico
Leolaia
I disagree with your criticism about my use of Applegate's article on the Jeremaniac influence of the Zechariah texts on the seventy years and Jonsson's dogmatic denial of this traditional scholarly viewpoint. What alarms me about your criticism is that you have not got the article or have read it so I would have thought that humility would have guided you in not being hasty in making assertions when you have not read the material.
I simply gave a quotation to support the fact that Jeremiah 25:12 refers to Babylon's punishment not at her Fall as claimed by apostates in 539 but a desolation that began after the seventy years were fulfilled. I disagree with your opinion that 2 Chronicles and Daniel represented a later reinterpretation of Jeremiah's prophecy as this smacks of higher criticism. Daniel was a contemporary of Jeremiah and personally witnessed how the seventy years prophecy was fulfilled. Further, the historian Ezra writing after the event could evaluate the historical significance of these events with the release and return of the Jews bach to their homeland.
You should get the article and read it through thoroughly before advancing wild concocted theories as Applegate's paper is the latest study thus far on the subject of the seventy years.
Your exegeais of the seventy years in Jeremiah 25:11 is false and misleading because the seventy years apply to Judah alone consisting of a period of exile, servitude and desolation. During this time of Babylonian supremacy other Foreign Nations would also serve Babylon and they did but not for any specified period of time. If you wish to argue that the seventy years was of servitude only then you would have to establish a clear defined historical period and this you cannot do nor can Jonsson. The texts nowhere state or indicate that the nations had to serve Babylon for seventy years but the texts do state that during the seventy years for Judah, the nations would serve Babylon for that Judaic period of seventy years running from 607 until 537 BCE.
scholar JW
can anyone provide me with any evidence (links to other sites is fine) that jerusalem could not have possibly fallen to the babylonians in 607?
thanks again for your answers.
zico
Muadib
My purpose in posting on this board is simply to defend WT chronology to the best of my academic or scholastic ability. I care nought if I convince others of these views and I am not concerned now others view my postings. All that concerns me are the facts and nothing but the facts and I am staunch advocate for truth and not the lies and deception promoted by apostates and their sympathizers.
scholar JW
sorry for the long post!.
what the watchtower society says:.
24 the book of truthful historical dates ***.
Leolaia
It seems that you are now an expert on calendrical chronology so how about expending your considerable and well honed intellect in determining what was the precise year for the Fall of Jerusalem, 586 or 587? When you make a research finding one way or the other then p;erhaps you could arrange for such ground-breaking research to be published in a leading scholarly journal.
scholar JW
sorry for the long post!.
what the watchtower society says:.
24 the book of truthful historical dates ***.
Kaput
Certainly have for it is all contained in the Bible.
scholar JW
sorry for the long post!.
what the watchtower society says:.
24 the book of truthful historical dates ***.
Jeffro
The only correlation between Tyre's seventy years prophesied by Isaiah and Judah's seventy years prophesied by Jeremiah is that of servitude to Babylon. These two periods, one finite and the other indefinite are not one and the same but different as to time, purpose and function.
You need to read more widely and deeply
scholar JW
