isaac austin
Post 1295
Yes he did, just read his entire book.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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Mad Dawg
Post 129
The Bible proves that 607BCE is the only possible date for the Fall of Jerusalem and such evidence has been presented so I suggest you submit your application to pioneer but you should brush up on your knowledge first.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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isaac austin
Post 1294
I agree that the contect does indicate servitude of the nations to Babylon during the seventy years of Judean servitude but we have no precise chronologies of Babylonian domination of those nations as we have with Jeremiah's prophecy against Judah.
It is absurd to claim that the seventy years ended with the Fall of Babylon in 539 BCE, it is simply a false and impossible claim but you are entitrled to your view and on this point we agree to disagree.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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Barefoot Servant
Post 64
The calculation of 537 BCE for the Return and the related texts have been widely discussed so if you have our publications then you can easily work the matter out. It is not rocket science so if you have the smarts then you can easily research the matter.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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OUTLAW
Scholar has made an ass of Alan F exposing him to be a fraud who does not even believe in the things he writes about. His credibility has been torn to shreds for he is an avowed atheist/agnostic and does not believe in the Bible and Christianity.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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allelsefails
Post 46
Eschatology requires interpretation and so with the use of 'times' in Revelation can be used as a prophetic formula in the understanding of other usages of this expression. The 'times' of Revelation pertain to historic events in connection with the True Church soon after the birth of the Kingdom so that would require a more literal interpretation. In Daniel we see that times has both a literal and figurative meaning as proven by the context. In short, one must pay close attention to the context of these expressions whether in Daniel or Revelation and also to pay close attention to the faithful and discrret slave which nicely utilizes the research done over may years by the 'celebrated WT scholars. I hope this helps.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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Mad Dawg
Yes I can and this is simply set out in the publications of the WT Society.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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On The Way Out
The language of Jeremiah is not vague but quite specific and there is no reason to suggest that the seventy years was anything else but a definite historic period as supported by recent scholarship on this subject. The interpretation of the seventy years as a fixed period of servitude-desolation and exile from the Fall until the Return as promoted by the 'celebrated' ones is in agreement with Josephus' many references to this period.
There is no need for reound numbers here as this is simply an apostate gimmick aligned to that of the higher critic.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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isaacaustin
Post 1287
The context of Jeremiah 25 indicates that the desolation and servitude would beof a duration of seventy years. Plain and simple. Jeremiah describes the fact of the land being desolated, the domination of Judah by Babylon and the taking of Exiles, these events were fulfilled within the seventy years period as this is the only time reference that he describes. Josephus describes the situation in some detail and he agrees with this understanding of the seventy year period as traditionally presented by the 'celebrated WT scholars.
Your 609-539 BCE hypothesis does not work because the beginning date is too fuzzy and the end date finds the Jews still in Babylon as exiles serving the current king of Babylon. It does not work.
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70 years = 607?
by allelsefails in70 years of captivity?.
i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.
that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.
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isaacaustin
Post 1286
I disagree. The reference in Luke 21:24 to the Gentile Times by our Lord shows by means of the Greek Tense employed that the period was stillin progress and the the us eof kairos for 'times' is a Danielic reference to the 'seven times' which is further explained by the Revelation. Expositors agree that this period is eschatological running uo until the Parousia.,
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