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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

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  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  Leolaia

  Post 13750

  That is why one must look heavenward. LOL...

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  PSacremento

  Post 1860

  The date 609 BCE for the end of the Assyrian Power is a matter of some conjecture by scholars because no date for this has been universally accepted. Therefore, such a date is useless for determing the beginning of a definite fixed period of history such as the 'seventy years'. Even Carl Jonsson was uncertain about whether 609 or 605 BCE should be employed because most scholars favour 605 BCE for its beginning but if it ended in 539 BCE according to popular opinion then you would have sixty-six years rather than the biblical 'seventy'. That is one problem. The other problem is that if you end the seventy years at 539 BCE then ou arrive at 609 BCE but that years is too 'fuuzy' to begin a an historic period of seventyh years especially when at that time Babylon as a World Power was in its embryonic stage.

  That is why 607BCE is a superior date because it uses notable events and dates at either end which are confiremed by secular and biblical history, the other dates such as 587 or 586 BCE are 'mired' in problems everywhere.

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  PSacremento

  Post 1855

  I will ask scholar himself about the third person business.

  You are correct that the 70 years chronology is about interpretation and that is a simple fact that scholar himself first brought to the attention to the community on this forum including such ones as Alan F. In fact, scholar has long stated that Chronology is about Methodology and Interpretation.

  You are also correct in saying that the seventy years is about servitude but it is not servitude alone for the Bible writers discussed the seventy years also in terms of desolation and exile thus the period is one of servitude-desolation-exile. This again has been scholar's formula presented on this forum for the benefit of the wider community.

  The end of the Babylonian Empire is confirmed by secular evidence as 539 BCE which is endorsed by scholarship and it is because of this acceptance and endoresement by scholars has been providentially selected by the celebrated WT scholars as a most worthy foundation for Bible chronology leading to the careful determination of 607 BCE for the Fall. This one fact alone proves the validity of the 607 BCE date as opposed to other 'wishy-washy', 'mamby-pamby' dates.

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  PSacremento

  Post 1857

  Precisely, that is my point for nothing of significance occurred in that year that would constitute a marker for the begiining of the seventy years for at that time Judah was subservient to Egypt.

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  PSacremento

  Post 1854

  You cannot the debate online so you need to sunscribe to the journal for access.

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  isaacaustin

  Post 4219

  Nevertheless his conduct was public and this showed his lack of wisdom making his posts and object of foolishness and stupidity.

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  isaacaustin

  Post 4218

  The Bible does not support the fanciful interpretation that the seventy years was only of Babylonian dominion from 609 BCE to 539 BCE for the simple reason that nothing of importance happened in 609 BCE.

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  isaacaustin

  Post 4217

  Perhaps he got bored or tired but one thing Alan F had and that was a lack of self-control which according to James shows that he lacked wisdom in connection with an accurate knowledge of Jesus Christ.-James 1:5-8.

  You then must decide where your loyalty lies is it with the believers or the unbelievers such as Alan F and his devotees.

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  isaacaustin

  Post 4213

  All that you really need is the Bible

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  Need help disproving 607BCE

  by 2pink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.

  she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!

  lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.

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  PSacremento

  Post 4212

  If you believe that I have been defeated by the likes of Leolaia, Alan F and others of their ilk then where are they now? If they truly were lovers of truth then why are they now so silent when people need them? Scholar debated with them over many years on nearly every point raised but it is for others to make their own judgements as to any victor for scholar he is just happy to be around to say something for he cares nothing about whether he has convinced certain people for that is not his business.

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