Finkelstein
it is nice to Finkelstein's hysterical nonsense which shows the weakness and foolishness of the arguments trying to disprove 607 BCE for the Fall of Jerusalem proven by the biblical 70 years of Jeremiah the prophet.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Hi Doug
I am somewhat taken back by your surprise that WT scholars rely on secular data in order to construct a scheme of Chronology because have I not said repeatedly on this forum and others that the WT Cfronology in relation to the calculation of 607 BCE and other OT dates that secular sources whether astronomical or otherwise are necessary in order to count back in time. Really, what your response shows that you have an inadequate understanding of the role of METHODOLOGY in Chronology and this was the fundamental purpose or thesis of Rodger Young's article.
Simply put, Methodology allows WT scholars and any other Chronologist to cherry-pick if you like what secular data is required especially when the historical data or biblical data such as the 70 years conflicts or is not in harmony with a traditional methodology with the reliance on different calendations and astronomical data.
Previously SDA scholars championed VAT 4956 pinpointing Neb's 37 th year using astronomical data which would disprove WT Chronology and 607 BCE. But the tables have turned on such scholars because of the research of Rolf Furuli whose thesis shows that Neb's 37th year can be assigned much earlier confirming Neb's 18th year in 607 BCE which is proved by Jeremiah's seventy years.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Finkelstein
The said scholar has no time for hysterics or insults because when you insult someone that means that you have lost the argument.
scholar JW emeritus
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Finkelstein
You come across with hysterics which has no place in a sound and considerate conversation. The fact of the matter is that 586/587 BCE for the Fall of Jerusalem is impossible because it cannot account for the 70 years thus it is falsified by the 70 years, therefore, the only possible date is 607 BCE.
scholar JW emeritus.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Shepherdless
You have been misled and deceived by the false teachers. The date 537 BCE is is the accepted date for the Return 0f the Jews to Judah thus officially ending the 70 years.Jer. 25:12 only comes into effect after the 70 years had ended in 537 BCE and not 539 BCE at the Fall of Babylon for it begins as a qualifier "But when 70 years have been fulfilled" and Dan 9:1-2 refers to the ending of the 70 years after Babylon fell for Daniel observed the matter in 'the first year of Darius'.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Finkelstein
Scholar knows nothing about intellectual dishonesty because he was brought up to be an honest person in all things.
Scholar seems to attract the crazies and the nutters who clasp at straws trying to defend the indefensible, a false date of 586 or 587 for the Fall of Jerusalem.
scholar JW
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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shepherdless
The sources are well documented in our publications and are the same publications that are standard reference works on Chronology eg Babylonian Chronology by Parker and Dubberstein which I have in my Minister's Library.
You are using the wrong starting point because it should be 537 BCE not 539 BCE and when you count back 70 years you get 607 BCE. Now was not that easy and simple?
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Hi Doug
The explanation for the determination of 539 BCEis nicely covered in Insight on the Scriptures, 1988, vol1. p.453, pars.2-3
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Finkelstein
Scholar is no lying crook and a character reference can be found from my friend Doug Mason and I have no money involvement with WT.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Finkelstein
Just do the research into WT publications and for the answer to the ending of the Gentile Times in 1914CE and you will find the answer.
scholar JW