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  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

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  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  wannaexit

  The celebrated WT scholars are unknown and unknowable.

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  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  Finkelstein

  You should leave the hysterics aside and focus on the real issue at hand and practice critical thinking and use your common sense.

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  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  joey jojo

  Sorry. That opinion does not work for the Bible clearly shows that the 70 years ended with the Return of the Jewish Exiles in 537 BCE and not with the Fall of Babylon in 539 BCE. In 539 BCE the Jews were still in Babylon not yet then released and Judah was still desolated so such a hypothesis is impossible.

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  277

  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  sir82

  Scholar appreciates your compliment. It is nice to know that scholar is reliable just like the heavenly bodies and other terrestrial forces for scholar must be doing something right.

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  277

  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  Sanchy

  WT Chronology in connection with the doctrine of the Gentile Times ending in 1914 CE is well based on Daniel 4 attested by Luke 21:24. Further, the book of Jeremiah does not deal with 70 weeks but 70 years for the 70 weeks prophecy is described in Daniel 9 which is based on the prayer of Daniel on the basis of the 70 years of Desolation lamented by Daniel the prophet.

  Make sure your mental gymnastics is accurate and fair!!!

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  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  Finkelstein

  WT scholars and the said scholar love facts and only deal with facts for we are factual and love the Bible. Do you?

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  277

  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  shepherdless

  The date 537 BCE is generally accepted by scholars for the Return of the Jews which means once you go back 70 years you arrive at 607 BCE. nice and easy!!!!!

  You need to reread Jer. 25:12

  Daniel provides context essential in the understanding of matters. Nice and Easy!!!!

  We are talking about Darius the Mede in the case of Daniel 9:1

  The said scholar not giving in to any hysteria.

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  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  Finkelstein

  You are not prepared to debate the matter because you will lose as the said scholar has a long history on this forum of engaging in intense debate on this topic over many years so I have nothing to fear. The Bible presents the facts about what happened to the Jews during the period of Babylonian domination and such facts can only support 607 BCE for the Fall of Jerusalem and not 586 or 587 BCE

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  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  Finkelstein

  it is nice to Finkelstein's hysterical nonsense which shows the weakness and foolishness of the arguments trying to disprove 607 BCE for the Fall of Jerusalem proven by the biblical 70 years of Jeremiah the prophet.

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  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  scholar

  Hi Doug

  I am somewhat taken back by your surprise that WT scholars rely on secular data in order to construct a scheme of Chronology because have I not said repeatedly on this forum and others that the WT Cfronology in relation to the calculation of 607 BCE and other OT dates that secular sources whether astronomical or otherwise are necessary in order to count back in time. Really, what your response shows that you have an inadequate understanding of the role of METHODOLOGY in Chronology and this was the fundamental purpose or thesis of Rodger Young's article.

  Simply put, Methodology allows WT scholars and any other Chronologist to cherry-pick if you like what secular data is required especially when the historical data or biblical data such as the 70 years conflicts or is not in harmony with a traditional methodology with the reliance on different calendations and astronomical data.

  Previously SDA scholars championed VAT 4956 pinpointing Neb's 37 th year using astronomical data which would disprove WT Chronology and 607 BCE. But the tables have turned on such scholars because of the research of Rolf Furuli whose thesis shows that Neb's 37th year can be assigned much earlier confirming Neb's 18th year in 607 BCE which is proved by Jeremiah's seventy years.

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