Atlantis
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scholar
friends, atlantis is receiving so much stuff so quickly, it is hard to keep up with it all.. the 2020 may announcements and reminders just came in also.
(s-147-e) in english and german.. if you want those just say so in the replies.. petra!.
Atlantis
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scholar
kermit is delivering documents with his kermit chopper.. https://docdro.id/a01tdj0.
if you are on the receive list these documents are already in your email.. .
if your not on the list, then reply below that you want kermit to swing by your place, and drop off a copy in your pm box.. .
Atlantis
Could Kermit drop of mail by pm at my place and can I have previous mail.
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scholar
graceyou won’t find any in the new world translation!no no no.you only find “undeserved kindness.”(ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.
?isn’t kindness basic decency?
?if you are one of jehovah’s witnesses you have a reason.jehovah’s witnesses are never on firm standing with their god.
Finkelstein
Scholar is a loyal dedicated witness/ servant of the one true God, Jehovah only, working in cooperation with the Lord's true Chuch and His disciples on Earth today. I hope this clarifies matters for you in recognition of God's undeserved kindness/grace towards mankind.
scholar JW
graceyou won’t find any in the new world translation!no no no.you only find “undeserved kindness.”(ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.
?isn’t kindness basic decency?
?if you are one of jehovah’s witnesses you have a reason.jehovah’s witnesses are never on firm standing with their god.
Terry
'Speaking collectively'
scholar JW
graceyou won’t find any in the new world translation!no no no.you only find “undeserved kindness.”(ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.
?isn’t kindness basic decency?
?if you are one of jehovah’s witnesses you have a reason.jehovah’s witnesses are never on firm standing with their god.
Terry
Your criticisms of the NWT's choice of 'undeserved kindness' rather than the traditional 'grace' for the rendering of the NT word charis is naive and that JW's have a poor or inadequate understanding of kindness is rather misplaced and inaccurate. WT publications have published much on the meaning and application of how 'undeserved kindness' is and was demonstrated in terms of Salvation for all mankind with the Christ event and how such kindness should be exercised within the true Christian community.
I suggest that you reread carefully how we understand the meaning of this Greek word in our publications as chosen by the Apostle Paul in his Epistles and also consider what mainstream Theology has contributed on the subject before being hyper critical of the teachings of JW's. Our understanding of this Greek word nicely coincides with current theological thought and development from the earliest pioneering study by G. Wetter in 1913.
scholar JW
fulltimestudent
There is a difference between Hellenism and Hellenization according to current scholarship. Regarding Jesus according to one reference work, "it has often claimed that the region of Galilee was thoroughly Hellenized, particularly to the extent that it contained a large Gentile population". However, a growing body of literature suggests that Gallilee was far less Hellenized than other regions of the Graeco-Roman Empire
Jesus' primary language was Aramaic rather than Koine Greek and the historiography of the Gospels is biblical in nature and reflects an engagement with Jewish and Greek culture which are key points to consider in this discussion.
scholar
i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
johnamos
How old are you scholar? Do you fully read my responses? I have answered you on what you asked and cited Scriptures to back up what I said. My point could not be any clearer and yet you are unable to comprehend...but I will try again, if for any reason, because I have insomnia-
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What I ask of you is quite simple that even a moron can understand is that you provide historical details as to how your interpretation of the nations who served Babylon for 70 years as stated in Jer. 25:11 applied. In that same chapter and after the mention of Baylon in vs 12 followed by Judah there are about 18 other nations mentioned. So give the timeframes for these.
scholar
i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
Johnamos
What are you talking about?
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The other nations listed in Jer. 25 part from Babylon and Judah
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And I cited the following Scriptures that show that:
Jeremiah 25:11 And all this land will be reduced to ruins and will become an object of horror, and these nations will have to serve the king of Babylon for 70 years.”’+ 12 “‘But when 70 years have been fulfilled,+ I will call to account* the king of Babylon and that nation for their error,’+ declares Jehovah, ‘and I will make the land of the Chal·deʹans a desolate wasteland for all time.+
[Jeremiah 27:6 And now I have given all these lands into the hand of my servant King Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar of Babylon; even the wild beasts of the field I have given him to serve him. 7 ALL THE NATIONS WILL HAVE TO SERVE him and his son and his grandson until the time for his own land comes, when many nations and great kings will make him their slave.’8 ‘If any nation or kingdom refuses to serve King Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar of Babylon and refuses to put its neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, I will punish that nation with the sword, with famine, and with pestilence,’ declares Jehovah, ‘until I have finished them off by his hand.’9 Therefore, do not listen to your prophets, your diviners, your dreamers, your magicians, and your sorcerers, who are saying to you: “You will not serve the king of Babylon.” 10 For they are prophesying lies to you, so that you will be taken far away from your land and I will disperse you and you will perish.11 ‘But the nation that brings its neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon and serves him, I will allow to remain on its land,’ declares Jehovah, ‘to cultivate it and dwell in it.]
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Your point?
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scholar
i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
RubaDub
Methinks you are dabbling in gobbledygook.
scholar
i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
jonnamos
YES I can and there is no reason to leave Tyre out since it is listed along with the other nations and the Scriptures read 'THESE NATIONS' and 'ALL THE NATIONS".
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Oh really! All that you have done is nothing just mentioning Tyre and Babylon, what about the others? The mention of the prophecies regarding the fact that other nations would serve Babylon is not helping your argument for if you believe that the seventy years exclusively applies to the ONA then that means that each nation would serve Babylon but this is not documented so you need to polish up your argument.
scholar