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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

Alethia

Not really. VAT4956 can be used to support 587 if you take into account planetary observations such as Saturn for instance.

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The latest and most recent scholarship on VAT 4956 by means of Rolf Furuli show that this tablet can be interpreted in support of 607 BCE by correcting Neb's 37th year from the traditional 568 BCE to 588 BCE.

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It seems your whole basis for 607 is your insistence that the bible mentions a 70 year exile?

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Correct. In addition, the fact that the 70 years is also descriptive of a period of servitude to Babylon and that the Land of Judah was desolate during the Exile of 70 years.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

Beth Sarim

The closer you get to 'truth', the angrier the misled become.

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Are you misled?

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

Vanderhoven 7

Babylon fell -- 539 BCE accepted date for the Fall of Babylon

Exile of the Jews - Babylonian or Jewish Exile widely accepted as a historical reality of a fixed and known duration. Not a myth

Return of the Jews - 537 BCE widely accepted as a historical reality. Some scholars date to either 536 or 538 BCE

Length of Exile - 70 years of Jeremiah as stated in the OT for a singular event in time and place

Beginning of Exile - 607 BCE with the Fall of Jerusalem

Exilic Period - 70 years constituted three elements as a period of Exile at Babylon-Desolation of Judah-Serviude at/for Babylon.

QED

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

Jeffro

Funny how all the evidence ‘must’ be wrong because of an interpretation that isn’t directly stated anywhere. 🤦‍♂️

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The joke is on you for has not the said scholar told you over and over again the simple truism: Chronology is based on Interpretation and Methodology!!!

Scholar instructing the ignorant and unlearned.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

Beth Sarim

WT Theology has survived for centuries as its antecedents go back to the 15th-16th centuries or at the time of the Reformation. It survives because it is based solely on the Bible rejecting all of the rusty creeds of Christendom and is focussed on the fulfilment of Bible Prophecy/Eschatology and its attendant discipline-Bible Chronology which originated with the venerable James Ussher.

What in fact is on life support are the many theologies of Christendom presented as Dogmatic or Systematic Theology etc which revolve around the false doctrine of the Trinity and its related Christology borrowed from Neo-Platonism and Platonism.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

VM44

Please be advised that it was the said scholar that first initiated into the world of biblical scholarship a translation from German to English of VAT4956. The said scholar was pioneering in Bondi NSW at that time and in company with Leonard Tolhurst who was the Librarian at the SDA Seminary at Cooranbong, NSW who contributed half of the expense of the cost of the translation project which was done by a lecturer in the Department of German at the University of Sydney.

Some years later another translation into English of the clay tablet VAT 4956 was done by Hermann Hunger but as stated that the said scholar was the 'first cab off the rank' as it were as he had obtained a photocopy of the original document from Tolhurst sent by mail and then hand delivered by the said scholar to the female lecturer's residence at the upper North Shore of Sydney and when completed the said scholar picked up the typewritten documents and mailed a copy back to Tolhurst.

Leonard Tolhurst was the SDA Missionary who rescued a Witness family who was marooned on a deserted island off Fiji whilst either returning or going to a Convention. This experience was widely reported by the then very popular Readers' Digest which was available in many languages. Leonard Tolhurst is quite elderly and still alive residing at his home in Cooranbong, NSW which is the location of the primary educational institute for the SDA Church in Australasia.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

Aletheia

t looks like pure speculation to me. We're supposed to believe a gap of 20 years happened just because they say it happened?

Its really up to them to provide the evidence. If not, then the whole concept is wrong.

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My last post provided the evidence.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

Alethia

Can you provide further details of the missing 20 years?

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1. The astronomical diary VAT 4956 indicates that Bebuchadnezzer's 37th year was 568 BCE and the tablet Strm Kambys 400 indicates that Cambyses' 7th year was 523 BCE. This leaves only about 50 years for the Babylonian Exile of the Jews, whereas the Bible unambiguously says that Jerusalem was a desolate waste for 70 years. One or two of the sources must be wrong but which one(s)?

2. The conclusion drawn on the basis of a study of hundreds of cuneiform tablets is that the New Babylonian Empire should be expanded by twenty years. This means that Nebuchadnezzer II started to reign in 625 BCE and not in 605 BCE as is almost universally believed.

Will this suffice?

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

Alethia

holar, can you provide some evidence for the missing 20 years?

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The missing 20 years is shown when one compares Bible Chronology with NB Chronology or secular Chronology. For example, using the calculated date for the Fall of Jerusalem under Nebuchadnezzer you can calculate two different dates: 586/7 BCE or 607 BCE depending on the different methodology.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

scholar

MeanMrMustard

Aannnnnnddd again - Jerimiah is clear. It's 70 years of servitude, for the nations of the region, to Babylon.

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Jeremiah is very clear and so is Ezra, Daniel, Zechariah and Josephus in that the 70 years was a definite historic period of EXILE + SERVITUDE +DESOLATION

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That is the definition of the 70 years according to Jerimiah. Priper "exegesis" takes into account grammar.
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Exegesis proves that the 70 years was a period of Exile, a period of Servitude and a period whence the Land of Judah was desolate.
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