if we want to worship god acceptably, we must know the truth.
this is an important issue.
our eternal happiness depends on it.
NeonMadman
I have never known anyone who can or has devastated WT biblical theology and by the way what contribution have you made towards a greater understanding of the Bible seeing as you are in the habit of ridiculing others.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
it's a simple fact.
jw's cannot freely express themselves.
they can't freely tell another about a doubt or a question that they might have for fear they could be exposed to the elders.
hilary_step
You claim that Alleymom had diminished my comments on chronology and that you THINK she has similar qualifications to my own. If this is the case then why does she not declare herself? You are entitled to believe in her so called superiority in her debate with me but I have not finished yet and no doubt these issues will resurface and we will see what happens. Rolf Furuli's new book as a piece of pure scholarship will at the very least cast considerable doubt on the validity of the Jonsson hypothesis.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
if we want to worship god acceptably, we must know the truth.
this is an important issue.
our eternal happiness depends on it.
NeonMadam
Yes, your observation is quite correct but do not you see a certain irony in all of this.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
it's a simple fact.
jw's cannot freely express themselves.
they can't freely tell another about a doubt or a question that they might have for fear they could be exposed to the elders.
ozziepost
I can assure assure that no conversion or epiphany was experienced so PLEASE EXPLAIN. You state that other postersbut have degrees in religion or theological studies but I have seen no evidence of that being the case. Such a fact if true is not evident in any of the postings on this board.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
if we want to worship god acceptably, we must know the truth.
this is an important issue.
our eternal happiness depends on it.
Gamaliel
I believe that the Jonsson hypothesis is a pece of biased pseudo-scholarship and has no evidence that would invalidate 607 and the teaching of the Gentile Times ending in 1914. I for one do not trust Jonsson as he has already demonstrated his incompetence in interpreting ancient secular evidence. He simply does not possess the academic qualifications and this is shown in his publication. The only people who have been deceived by Jonsson;s treatise are those who do not fully understand the Society's wondrous biblical chronology.
scholar BA MA Studies in Religion
it's a simple fact.
jw's cannot freely express themselves.
they can't freely tell another about a doubt or a question that they might have for fear they could be exposed to the elders.
ozziepost
An Art's degree has a minimum requirement of one major but in fact my undergraduate degree consisting of 24 Units is made up of two majors which are Philosophy and Religious Studies. The Honours program involves studies in Philosophy of Religion or Philosophical Theology.
The reason why I post my academic credentials is to prove that I am a scholar and makes my postings credible particular when there are so many controversial topics commented on this board. Otherwise if such credentials such people would think that my posts are that of a brainwashed Witness apologist.
scholar BA MA Studies in Religion
if we want to worship god acceptably, we must know the truth.
this is an important issue.
our eternal happiness depends on it.
Gamaliel
You have posted two rather lenghty posts concerning my earlier and present comments on chronology and the subject to hand. Let me make some points respecting chronology and my reponses to the past dialoque. I have no intention of running away fro such issues as these will all resurface from time to time and I will be taking a more powerful assault against the attempts to invalidate the Society's chronology. At present I have been having a discussion with Carl Jonsson concerning a issue which I will believe completely disredits the Jonsson hypothesis, once this is finished then I have a responsibility to the Readers of that hypothesis to fully inform them so that they can make an informed judgement about the credibility of the treatise that you speak of and in published form known as GTR
Upon researching the facts of the matter I am of the considered view that anyone who has read the treatise and the GTR and has been caused to convert to it is weak minded. I do not believe for a moment that the greatest Bible scholar who has ever lived namely Frederick William Franz was affected by it. Like myself he would have regarded such revisionist chronology as simply rubbish saying nothing more than what scholars have said abot chronology over the last century being influenced by higher criticism.
No evidence biblical or secular can discredit the date 607 and the prophetic significance with 1914. The whole Jonsson hypothesis rests upon one scripture and the translation of a preposition. I for one am not prepared to base my faith on such a slim proposition. I want to base my faith on a chronology that has substance, nourishes theology, and prophecy. The true chronology is ALIVE not dead and moribund.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
it's a simple fact.
jw's cannot freely express themselves.
they can't freely tell another about a doubt or a question that they might have for fear they could be exposed to the elders.
ozziepost
What do you claim to know? Do you want a copy of my graduation testamur, photograph or graduation program in the Great Hall at the illustrious University of Sydney, Australia's first university based on the principles of the oldest universities in the world namely Oxford and Cambridge'
scholar
BA Deakin MA Sydney BA Hons (cand)
it's a simple fact.
jw's cannot freely express themselves.
they can't freely tell another about a doubt or a question that they might have for fear they could be exposed to the elders.
minimus
Boy, if I read you correctly then I must have in a different religion since 1964 or perhaps another planet. But that is nonsense because like Descartes I know myself and I know where I have been right up to the present. So, I conclude that you are making a monkey of yourself. Hace you not heard of discipline and order? All organizations prescribe order and discipline as a vital constituent of their organism.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
if we want to worship god acceptably, we must know the truth.
this is an important issue.
our eternal happiness depends on it.
happyout
Is this really an apostate board? I thought it was a forum that invites one and all to discuss JW's. Have you not heard of academic and Christian freedom? Life is full of risks and it takes courage to think 'outside the square' and if I am error then I am subject to greater authority as is all of mankind.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
