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  NWT Scholars

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  Marvin Shilmer

  I posted a challenge on Channel C asking three specific points which to date no one has supplied answers to those three points and no alternative chronology has been provided by any such WT critics on chronology either.

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  NWT Scholars

  by homme perdu in

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  hilary-step

  If you wish to believe that Franz and Co. have identified the committe by a mere list of names without supporting evidence then that OK with me. Until I see evidence to the contrary I will continue to affirm that the identity of the committe is unknown and unknowable.

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  NWT Scholars

  by homme perdu in

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  2. bible

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  elderwho

  The data referring to the reigns of the Neo Babylonian kings using WT chronology is problematic because there is no firm agreement within scholarship as to their reigns. The figures supplied for those rulers agrees with the current position but earlier authorities have different figures. However, if you are happy with the current presentation then that is fine with me, I prefer a chronology that is based on solid biblical and secular evidence as presented by WT chronology. By the way the Society and Furuli use Grayson as an authority in support of a different claim so your elder friend should not be distressed but simply needs to do more research.

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  NWT Scholars

  by homme perdu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  Marvin Shilmer

  So we have two first hand accounts for the identity of the NWT Committee,.What are these accounts? Please provide a transcript of such testimony or at least supply more meaningful information than a list of names as supplied by Franz in his COC.

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  NWT Scholars

  by homme perdu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  hilary_step

  I do not rum away and have reponded as requested. I have not been busted but I have busted critics of WT chronology showing the gaps in the secular record and showing no gaps in the biblical list. You in fact cowardly flee when you cannot and will not put a proposed biblical chronology as the FDS has done. Why don't you put up or shut up?

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  NWT Scholars

  by homme perdu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  hilarary _step

  You miss the point, I am not saying that Franz and [edited] did not know the men on the committee because the list of names could well have been that committee and that Franz was correct in revealing those names. But it is a fact that the committe requested that their identity be not revealed. So, that means that we cannot know or prove such matters because the Society will neither affirm or deny such a matter. So, regardless of how much oral testimony is given this does not constitute proof unless it is supported by other independent written evidence. It is one thing to list names but that is not proof nor can such list of names be proved. Therfore, I repeat that the Committee is unknown and unknowable at this stage until firm evidence is produced. In a way, the whole matter has mystical overtones which sends shivers through one is it not?

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  BA MA Studies in Religion
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  by homme perdu in

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  2. bible

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  elderwho

  The list of Neo-Babylonian rulers that I posted is simply what has appeared in recent WT publications, Where some authorities have different figures then I use 'proposed' and a question mark to indicate that the data is problematic.ET chronology uses biblical and secular evidence to establish the beginning of Neb's reign in 624 and not 604 as you suggest, if the data has a gap this is because there are some problems with the secular data and not the date for Neb's reign. I agree with the Babylon book but I based these figure on the latest Insight volumes. If I was writing for a professional source I would have taken more time and checked everything but as this is an informal board and I wished to respond quickly so my list was submitted in haste but it gives a broad outline for the period.

  However, with all the time needed there still has been no response to my requests for an alternative chronology so perhaps you should begin to focus on an alternative if in fact yo believe that Neb reigned in 604.

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  BA MA Studies in Religion
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  NWT Scholars

  by homme perdu in

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Your so called two witnesses for the identity of the NWT Committee are [edited] and Raymond Franz, Thes men have and make claims but what is the bsais or evidence for such claims? Have these men seen documentary evidence? Have they seen the original typed-written manuscript which Knorr gave to the factory on September 29, 1949 for publishing by the forty volunteers on that project? Have these men read the commitee's document which assigned the manuscript to the Society? Have such men read the minutes for the meeting convened by Knorr on September 3, 1949?

  These men have made public and private claims which are only based on personal opinion. They have not even given oral testimony of conversations about the committee when in fact Franz easily recounts conversations he had with his former colleagues including his uncle. His CoC contains much detail as to his experiences on the Governing Body and prior years and yet when it comes to the matter of the NWT committe he is silent. hE GIVES NO EVIDENCE FOR HIS LIST.

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  BA MA Studies in Religiuon
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  NWT Scholars

  by homme perdu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  Marvin Shilmer & hilary_step

  Both of you should re-read the challenge to WT critics by me posted on Channel C. In fact, I requested such critics to respond to 3 specific subjects:

  1. Date for Adam's creation?

  2. List of reigns for the Divided Monarchy?

  3. Dates for birth, ministry and death of our Lord.?

  Thus far, No one responded by supplying an alternative chronology despite the fact that there were many responses including those from Carl Jonsson which continues. So, I have not lied and in fact I had made a similar challenge on this board which to this DAY remains unanswered!!!

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  BA MA Studies in Religion
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  NWT Scholars

  by homme perdu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  the book, reasoning from the scriptures does not inform the reader on who are the nwt scholars nor their education background.

  could someone provide some information concerning the nwt scholars?

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  Marvin Shilmer Hilary_step