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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

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  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  toreador

  You do not have to believe in anything do you? You do not have to believe in the 'celebrated' ones and I care nought for your belief or disbelief.

  We derive the biblically established date 1914 from sacred biblical testimony and not from pagan or secular sources. The importance of which was revealed by God in seeing to it that a accurate Bible chronology exists, based upon the prophetic word and the historic 'seventy years'.

  My logic is not flawed and cannot be so because the evidence is there, the calculation is simple, not ambiguous as that of secular and profane chronologies. In short, it works whereas the other fails.

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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  KW13

  Guilt is something you must know a lot about. Scholar posts on this board but you do not like scholar posting on this board/ Is it because my postings disturb you, irritate you, make you feel ashamed, guilty, sad all because scholar pricks your conscience by defending the sacred things that you once held sacred. You are not really concerned about my welfare because my presence here causes you anguish. To bad.. Too bad.

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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  fullofdoubtnow

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  Now you admit to being duped. How foolish of you. Now you are no longer duped you therefore must be now wise. Pray tell what is this new found wisdom teaching you? Are you now no longer full of doubt? But wait, something is wrong because your choice of a user name does not reflect an enlightened one, Does it?

  Further, you noiw must have something better. Have you now found the True Religion? Are you Roman Catholic, Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Seventh Day Adventist? What now are you converted to?

  From your own hand you admit to being duped but that was not because of some error of teaching that you once believed but because you read a book written by an apostate, a person of weak intellectual character and just as Eve was deceived by the wicked one, so have you! You now talk of freedom but it is simply the freedom of sin and is not Christian freedom which requires duty, service and self-sacrifice. The freedom that you now enjoy is that of the world and is but temporary but that is your choice.

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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  hilary_step

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  So now you believe in Evolution rather than Creation in now affirming that there was no Adam. So your abandonment of the truth has led you into higher citicism, Evolution and what next? Atheism. Not only have you left the Truth esposed by Jehovah's people but you have abandoned Christianity and yet you talk of me as being in an ethical and moral chaos.

  I believe the Bible because it is true, it is God's Word and not man's word. The Bible is correct with facts as explained by science wheras current scientific theories come and go like the wind. It is you that have flaw in reasoning because there can be know flaw in truth. If one has found the truth then there can be no turning around ot turning back from it. If you once believed it was the truth then by what logic can you now say that it was not or is not now the truth. Only the fool thinks like that. There can be no such thing as another Truth for once found there can be no other competitor or Pretender.

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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  stevenyc

  Better still go there as a tourist and see with your own eyes the fulfillment of Ezekiel's prophecy that ancient city of Tyre not the modern city is just a place of fishing and museums, a reminder that God's Word does not lie.

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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  jayhawk 1

  Such an 'elite' group must remain unknown and unknowable.

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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  stevenyc

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  Nuts I am not for it a simple fact that when you current Neo-Babylonian chronology with Bible chronology researched by celebrated WT scholars, developed by the FDS and published by the Watch Tower Society, there is a small gap of twenty years. This means that NB data does not coincide with the comtemporary history of the Late Judean history. In other words for that same period the history of the Neo-Babyloians does not match up with the history of the Jews as recorded in the Historical and Prophetic books of the OT.

  It is not a matter of one proving this or the other disproving this for neither source or witness was written for the purposes of proving current debates about chronology. Each side, the secular Babylonian records and the sacred Scripures of prophecy and History were written for different purposes. Therefore, the modern reader must consult all of the evidence and take careful note of the reasons, agendas and purposes of both sacred and profane history. When it comes to reconstructing a chronology of the OT then one would logically assign primacy to the OT data and if one wishes to construct a chronology of the Babylonians then one assign primacy to that data respectively. When this is done such parallel data shows a twenty year difference. Therefore, the sincere must make a choice as to whiuch one is more authorative than the other and I believe as the Bible is inspired of God then that data must take precedence over the pagan Babylonian material.

  The question of the existence of the 'celebrated' ones is not for your knowledge or for others and your opinion on this matter is of little merit. As regards to disputes on chronology wel it is the apostates who create such disputes as they serve the Devil's purpose in blinding the minds of people to the reality of the Kingdom established Heavenly in 1914 and discerned with the 'eyes of faith'.

  scholar JW
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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  Jeffro

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  I note a tone of frustration in your comments. Is the heat of my long and skilled research getting to your tired and borrowed ideas on chronology. You have provided no evidence for your views just a repetition of the Jonsson nonsense and I have demolished most of your arguments, those that remain will be disposed off in the course of my posting on this board. Never fear, scholar is here to hold your hand and guide you in the path of understanding.

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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  fullofdoubtnow

  So you abandon your former beliefs for what ? Spiritual darknes because you have left the 'light of truth' and have found nothing else, not even new beliefs, not even a new conversion. Is this really smart? To leave something for a nothing is just plain done and shows the state of your intellectual character and faith. You do not deal with doubt by abandoning such doubts but use those doubts as stepping stones to greater wisdom and understanding as found in God's Word and revealed by the Faithful and Discreet Salve and Holy Spirit.

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  For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

  by Swamboozled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

  i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

  http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

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  Alan F

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  You answered your own question for modern Tyre is now a modern land city probably consisting of the three parts as you describe. Ezekiel in his famous prophecy of judgement against Tyre in Ezekiel 26:4,14 refers to that Tyre as an ancient island city which even today that section remains a place of archaeology interest and a spot for a little fishing. Hardly rebuilt as you claim. Therefore, Jehovah's word came true exactly as foretold.

  Perhaps you should take a trip there but I would postpone such a trip until current hostilities cease and yo can make a comparison of all of Tyre both ancient and modern'

  Further, one scholar of Tyre's history, Nina Jidejian in her book Tyre Through the Ages (1969) states:"The port has become a haven today for fishing boats and a place for spreading nets" exactly as Ezekiel foretold -Ezekiel 26:5, 14.

  Further, Halley's Bible Handbook (2000) notes on page 422: "It never recovered its former glory and has for centuries been a 'bare rock' where fisherman 'spread fishnets' (26:4-5, 14), an amazing fulfilment of Ezekiel's prohecy that it "will never be rebuilt".

  scholar JW