Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Post 6343
You forgot to include Hunger and Jonsson or are they immortal?
scholar JW
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Post 6343
You forgot to include Hunger and Jonsson or are they immortal?
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
isaac austin
Post 6342
What errant nonsense. Attempts made on this forum to discredit WT Bible Chronology have been legion but everyonse single point made and used has been defeated or addressed by scholar over these past many years. The foresaid 'scholar' has met every challenge and disproved the 586/587 nonsense. Scholar has advance new areas of exegesis in regard to the Gentile Times, the seventy year texts etc. It was scholar that came up first with the 70 year formula that 70 years=DESOLATION+SERVITUDE+EXILE which demolished Jonsson's approach of Babylonian sovereignty. Scholar has drawn up lists of facts concerning the superiority of 607 BCE ove rthe other false dates.
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
wobble
Post 3510
Circular reasoning is a product of logic and is not without its pitfalls but in the real world of 'common sense' and rationality it is a legitimated logical device in which we all employ in our normal lives. NB chronology also uses this tool and if WT scholars are accused of it then so be it. Let me put this question to you: Do you think Jesus, the Great Teacher can be accused of using Ciruclar Reasoning as a Rhetorical Device?
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
AnnOMaly
Post 1507/8
1. A disadvantage that I can live with.
3. The Reviewer would be the reader in this instance.
4. No, I would not say that it is a Svengali influence over certain scholars but simply collusion, a working together to defeat a common enemy. Evidence of collusion was confirmed by my receiving yesterday a reply from Jonsson to a my post, a resposnse to Hunger posted yesterday by means of a third party. Jonsson himself explains the circumstances behind Furuli's review and how and why it was posted on the Internet on a site hosted by Leslie Wiklander and why it was not published in the AFO.
5.6.7. I am firmly of the view that Hunger's review simply amounts to 'nitpicking' presented in a somewhat technical nature. However, their combined reviews of Jonsson and Hunger fail to measure up to Furuli's technical expertise. For example, their coverage of Furuli's analysis of the VAT4956 is somewhat deficient and weak in comparison to Furuli's arguments.
In respect of the astronomical observations I see that there are three different astro programs involved. Furuli has one, Jonsson uses another and Hunger relies on a source in which I suspect have usen another. In order, to make a proper evaluation of Furuli's data then surely there must be a better way of researching and interpreting the Phases of the Moon and the Planets in order to match Neb's 37 th year with either 588 or 568 BCE!.
Furuli was the first scholar to give scientific analysis to VAT 4956, he gives a detailed history of its provenance and the history its scholarship. For this, Furuli should have received commendation from Hunger and not criticism. Further, he gives in a few places a detailed summary of his findings on the tablet in which Hunger ignores and Jonsson trivializes.
Hunger it seems is critical not so much of Furuli's research but his hypothesis that the tablet was subject to modern tampering but he does not address the evidence that Furuli presents as a much plausible hypothesis that cannot and should not be so easily dismissed especially when it is championed to be the 'bees knees' of NB chronology.
9. Furuli ha snothing to lose in this debate but the likes of Hunger, Jonsson and Gallagher have much to loose if Furuli is only approximately correct. His research will move scholarship forward not hinder its progress and this can only be a good thing. Furuli's research is highly technical in nature and no doubt can benefit from criticism and fine tuning especially in areas of translation and the handling of data and if others find errors then such errors should be presented to Furuli.
Furuli is fully aware of what has been published regarding VAT 4956 and if you dispute his claim that his was the first scientific study then you should pursue that with him. For starters, where has anyone else published extensive photographs of the tablet?
Also, Jonsson himself does read these posts on this forum but because he is to busy to post he leaves such responses to the likes of yourself and others in which he chooses to identify.
Awaiting your reply with much anticipation and excitement.
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
Mary
Post 12401
Numb-nuts is back. Furuli has certainly put the 'cat amongst the pidgeons' with his VAT tampering hypothesis. However, his presentation of the matter is quite compelling as he is the only person who has made a proper 'scientific' study of the tablet. The tablet raises many questions that demand suitable answers and Furuli has risen to take up the challenge. Numb-nuts scholar is right behind him too. Let the debate continue!!!
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Post 3176
The celebrated WT scholars simply use the Bible combined with secular history and records in order to construct a scheme of Bible chronology for as you say the Bible does not dates in our modern calender. Our chronology is not 'a house of cards' at all because it has withstood the test of time and seen the fulfillment of bible prophecy to wit-1914 CE.
Your comment on our current understanding of the Mathean generation is baseless as it well fits in the norms of sound Biblical scholarship and exegesis. Yes many religions have come and gone but we have Jehovah God, His Son Jesus Christ and the Faithful Discreet Slave fighting for us so I do not think we have much to be concerned about.
We will be around long after the sands of time have removed that Great Pyramid into the dustbowl of history.
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Post 3173
I sse that you have escaped. The Great Pyramid is ancient history, there are no treasures there for at least there were none inside when I went inside on a tour during the late eighties.
Anyway the joke is not on the 'celebrated' WT scholars who advocate 607 BCE as the only date for the Fall but on wordly scholars who worship the false god of Higher Criticism believing in a chronology that is falsified by Bible Chronology.
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
bohm
Post 1988
I am not avoiding you for I have already answered your question. The information you request is on Furuli's home page if you are not satisfied then contact Furuli. I cannot help you any further.
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Post 3169
I think you are lost in that big Pyramid. You need to escape out of and see the Light. Why not exit from the Grand Gallery?
scholar JW
a long-awaited review by professor h. hunger, foremost authority on babylonian astronomical cuneiform tablets, of dr. r. furuli's assyrian, babylonian, and egyptian chronology.
volume ii of assyrian, babylonian, egyptian, and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible is now available to read for anyone who is interested.
you can find it at http://goto.glocalnet.net/kf4/reviewhunger.htm.
diamondiiz
Post 566
Not at all. What you say is preposterous. The world which lies in the power of the wicked one is most certainly trying to hide the truth about 607 BCE, the ending of the Gentile Times and the events and significance of 1914 established evidentially by 607 BCE. One does not need to be delusional because the said 'scholar' is very much abreast of all the facts regarding the establishing in a most secure manner this most sacred date. So there!
scholar JW