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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

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  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Vanderhoven7

  I do not know one non-WT affiliated Bible scholar that accepts 607 BCE for the Fall.

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Finkelstein

  o Scholar are you a practicing baptized Jehovah Witness ?
  

  And perhaps how would you like to comment about the WTS's date setting of 1914 and their chronological calculation when Jesus himself said clearly that no one knows of the time not even he.

  He also admonished is true faithful followers to not set a time upon god's own sacred time.

  There is much condemnation and warning of false prophets in the bible as well such as 1 John 4:1 .------------

  Proudly Yes

  Have you not heard of the Gentile Times? Such a doctrine underscores 1914CE

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  johnamos

  Frankly, the end of Assyria as a World power is of little consequence except that it paved the way for the emerging power of Babylon which later became the instrument in the fulfillment of the 70 years. Our publications discuss the end of Assyria either in terms of the Fall of Nineveh in 632 BCE corrected to 612 and with the death of King Josiah with Necho, King of Egypt in 629 BCE corrected to 609 BCE in order to placate the critics.So the fall of Assyria with whatever date is simply too fuzzy and cannot be used as the datum for the seventy years.

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Doug Mason

  Your study already has canvassed the arguments and methodology used by WT in support of 537 BCE but you do not provide an alternative so unless you can argue for a better date your criticisms although interesting have little value.

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  LeeT

  What particular events in 607 BCE do you think marked this transformation to World Power Status? Do you think conquering Judah, a fairly insignificant power in a strategically important region marked a tipping point whereas defeating Assyria didn't?

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  Absolutely because Jerusalem typically represented the Kingdom of God which is thematic to the book of Daniel so that would have to overwhelmingly significant. Confirmation of this is found on page 85 in Commentary on the Old Testament,Daniel, 1978, vol.IX by C.F.Keil and F. Delitzsch

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Doug Mason

  If you cannot or will not provide an alternative date for the Return then on what basis can you be critical of other proposals for your criticism is simply vacuous and it is no issue for WT because we have proved its validity in our publications.

  I have read your studies of this subject and found such to be of little merit but interesting contributing nothing to scholarship.

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  LeeT

  I see you as choosing a particular interpretation of Biblical history. Others seem to have little difficulty in arriving an interpretation which conforms to their understandings of both the Bible and history or even to arrive at an inconclusive conclusion.
  
  How would you go about testing whether a particular interpretation of historically related Biblical text is accurate? Surely you'd expect it to be in conformity with well arrested secular evidence or have a compelling case for why the secular record is in error

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  WT scholars have in our publications showed great accuracy to Biblical history which undergirds sound Chronology. In short, WT publications have shown competence in this field and this was well tested when I did that online course on the Rise and Fall of Jerusalem. Most other historians have-not demonstrated that same competence as shown by their failure to discuss the seventy years as definite historical period.

  The current understanding of Neo- Babylonian Chronology has its own difficulties and I believe that the missing seven years of Nebuchadnezzer is a significant factor in Neb's overall reign of 43 years. My trust is firmly rooted in the Bible History concerning that period rather than whatever information is contained in the many thousand clay tablets or other artefacts. Further, we have the Babylonian gap of twenty years which must be resolved when comparing Bible Chronology with neo-Babylonian Chronology, So, WT critics have two problems to solve namely the Gap of twenty years and Neb's missing years hich will continue to be of some embarrassment for them.

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Sanchy

  What a pity for it sort of reminds one of the words at 1John 5;20.

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  johnamos

  My apologies. I have wrapped myself over the knuckles for my stupidity for I got caught up in the heat of the moment with all these responses to the posts on this subject.

  The date for Assyria's ending as a World Power is problematic but the accepted Date is 609 BCE and that is fine with me because it has absolutely nothing to do with the beginning of the 70 years.

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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Chronology is about accuracy, about assigning specific dates for specific events in history so there is no room for fuzziness especially when WT critics lambast 607 for being wrong when such critics cannot say what is the correct date, Such hypocrisy!

  I do not know of any non-WT scholars that support 607 and it does not matter one iota if we are the only champions of that date for I am perfectly relaxed about the matter.

  Prophecy becomes history when fulfilled so what we are studying is both History and prophecy and that is why both must be examined in their respective contexts.

  When you find that nonaffiliated WT scholar let me know so I can introduce him or her into the community of celebrated WT scholars

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