Finkelstein
If scholars are so sure about their facts then Why do some including apostates prefer 587 rather than 586?
Big Pwoblem!!!!!
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Diogeneister
The fact of the matter that the wording conveys two different meanings so the comments in the Study Bible are helpful considering the case that John 17:3 is in Greek and trying to convey a precise meaning into English is sometimes a matter of a compromise and that is the case here,
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TD
Well said.
he point I was actually trying to make still stands. Prior to 2013 it was virtually impossible to have a respectful and lucid discussion with a JW on this subject.
This is because JW's in general are not familiar with Koine Greek so do not understand what lies behind the English translation.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Finkelstein
Not so. In fact, WT Chronology is thoroughly biblical and historical as confirmed by Josephus and others and regarding archaeology, there is much to be said that confirms our interpretation of the seventy years as a period of desolation of the land of Judah which serves to ground our wondrous Bible Chronology
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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bennyk
Obviously you did not read the article or failed to understand it.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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johnamos
Luke 21:24 is an expression of the Gentile Times as elucidated by the prophet Daniel recorded in his ch.4 with the tree dream because it is centered on Jerusalem being trampled on as an expression of God's Kingdom so get the facts right.
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'a faithful and discreet(prudent) slave'?
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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bennyk
Read it, I have studied it. Obviously, the author has a different chronology but it is the interpretation of the subject that is truly groundbreaking because Bryan asserts that the Exile of seventy years did not end with the Fall of Babylon but the return of the jews under Cyrus which agrees with our understanding of the seventy years. This pioneering scholarship is a deathblow to apostates and other critics of our wondrous Bible Chronology developed historically by the celebrated WT scholars.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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Finkelstein
The problem that you have is that the date 605 BCE although documented by secular Chronology thus far it is falsified by the seventy years of Jeremiah, therefore, the current NB Chronology must be adjusted or 'fine-tuned' by adding an extra twenty years to reconcile such with Bible Chronology.
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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?
by Doug Mason ini came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .
these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.
(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.
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johnamos
I say, 'Bring it On'!!
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TD and sir82
The translation of John 17:3 in the NWT in both the current edition of 2013 and former editions are all accurate with the literal Greek and is explained nicely as such in the NWT Study Bible: "their coming to know you: Or “their taking in knowledge of you; their continuing to know you.” The Greek verb gi·noʹsko basically means “to know,” and here the verb is used in the present tense to express continuous action. It may denote a process of “taking in knowledge about someone; getting to know someone; becoming better acquainted with someone.” It may also include the thought of making an ongoing effort to get better acquainted with someone who is already known. In this context, it refers to a deepening personal relationship with God brought about by ever-increasing knowledge of God and Christ and a growing trust in them. Clearly, this necessitates more than knowing who a person is or knowing his name. It would also involve knowing what that person likes and dislikes and knowing his values and standards. —1Jo 2:3; 4:8.
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