Posts by PhilosophicalLogic

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Havent gone to the kingdom hall in ten years but may have to go back...

by Joliette in

made a big mistake of talking about being raised as a jehovah's witness to some old friends and family.

people have told me that i am still a jws even though i've never been baptized.

i'm in school for social services, dealing with student loan debt, and a lot of other debt.

PhilosophicalLogic

I recommend joining an historic Christian Church and seeking support from them. Join a Baptist church and tell them your situation and your needs, they will help you. That way, you will have a religious community to be involved with, that is not a mind control cult. Check this website for a local Baptist church near you:

https://churches.sbc.net/

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Challenging the teacher.

by Jofi_Wofo in

imagine the case where a student disagrees with his teacher's method, and believes that he knows a better way.

the teacher realizes that if he kicks the student out of the classroom, the other students may begin to wonder if the teacher was hiding something.

to settle the matter once and for all, the teacher gives the student a chance to prove himself.. wisely, the teacher takes a moment to lay down the parameters for the challenge.

PhilosophicalLogic

This was really interesting. I’m a little unclear about exactly what it might mean, except for the idea of Jehovah’s Witnesses telling their members they are not allowed to read material critical of the Watchtower.

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Introducing www.jwletter.com

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

due to current restrictions, letter writing has replaced the door-to-door method of preaching.

however, the typical jw practice of hand printing sappy and childish messages and enclosing what amounts to watchtower "junk mail" is enough to embarrass even xjws.

i decided to compose a letter which completely "spills the beans" regarding current jw beliefs and practices, and here is why i did so.

PhilosophicalLogic

I read the JW letter and the letter from father to son, both were funny and informative, thanks so much for writing them.

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1984 movie, Similar to WT land.

by dropoffyourkeylee in

wow, if you have the time, watch this movie of orwell's 1984. it was made in the '50s, so its a little hokey, but wow the similarities are scary.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mj08hncica.

PhilosophicalLogic

I read the book 1984, and noticed its strong emphasis on mind control and the control of historical memory. That does sound a lot like what I’m learning about the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Is there anything else in particular about the film that reminded you of the JWs?

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Witnessing letter that has gone viral

by drzhivago73 in

here’s a link to a really cool letter that no witness can dispute.. jw letter.

PhilosophicalLogic

That letter was awesome, and funny too. :) I found this one linked below the letter you shared, this has some great documentation of Watchtower lies and problems:

https://www.jwletter.com/letter-from-father-to-a-son/

Any thoughts?

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Food for thought ? Talking to a JW ?

by smiddy3 in

some questions you may like to ask a jehovah`s witness?.

1.when did the modern day jw religion begin?

we all know the stock answer to that q that they will give ,but persevere .. for the past 2000 years there has never been an organization known as jw.

PhilosophicalLogic

@smiddy3

Thanks so much for looking at the argument anyway. It’s interesting to ponder, even if you’re not interested in Christianity. Again, I can understand how being deceived by the Jehovah’s Witnesses cult for so many years would make you wary of any religious claims.

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Food for thought ? Talking to a JW ?

by smiddy3 in

some questions you may like to ask a jehovah`s witness?.

1.when did the modern day jw religion begin?

we all know the stock answer to that q that they will give ,but persevere .. for the past 2000 years there has never been an organization known as jw.

PhilosophicalLogic

@smiddy3

Thanks so much for sharing that smiddy3! My story starts with being raised Christian, but getting taught a lot of false doctrine/heresies. When I learned about the idea of evolution in high school I became an Atheist for about ten years. Then I was exposed to orthodox theology and Christian apologetics, and became an Evangelical Protestant. That was twenty years ago, and I am still a Christian. I just recently decided to start trying to share the Gospel with Jehovah’s Witnesses, and that’s when I found this site.

You guys really seem to know your stuff, this seems like a great little community.

Regarding your choice of Atheism, I can understand. Once you’ve been burned by believing a false religion, you must feel like you can’t trust your beliefs on that subject anymore. But I would love to ask you, what do you think of the Kalam Cosmological Argument?

The Kalam Cosmological Argument

Based on the Beginning of the Universe

1 Everything that begins to exist has a cause.

2 The universe began to exist.

3 Therefore, the universe has a cause.

Once we reach the conclusion that the universe has a cause, we can then analyze what properties such a cause must have and assess its theological significance.

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Food for thought ? Talking to a JW ?

by smiddy3 in

some questions you may like to ask a jehovah`s witness?.

1.when did the modern day jw religion begin?

we all know the stock answer to that q that they will give ,but persevere .. for the past 2000 years there has never been an organization known as jw.

PhilosophicalLogic

@smiddy3

Thanks so much for the welcome. :) 32 years, wow! So what was it that finally convinced you to leave the Jehovah’s Witnesses? Also, were you born into the Jehovah’s Witnesses, or did you convert from another religion?

And what do you believe now? Are you a Christian, an Atheist, something else? Thanks for discussing!

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Food for thought ? Talking to a JW ?

by smiddy3 in

some questions you may like to ask a jehovah`s witness?.

1.when did the modern day jw religion begin?

we all know the stock answer to that q that they will give ,but persevere .. for the past 2000 years there has never been an organization known as jw.

PhilosophicalLogic

This is all really interesting, you guys really know your stuff! I just started learning about Jehovah’s Witnesses a couple days ago, so I can share the Christian Gospel of Christ with them.

Are you guys ex-JWs or are you just Christians who witness to them?

@Sea Breeze

I thought you made an awesome point, the Jehovah’s Witnesses are not preaching the Gospel Paul required of the Church. The ministry of reconciliation is indeed what we must preach.

@smiddy3

Great questions, where did you come up with them? Did you get them from a book?

Also, it sounds like you talk to a lot of Jehovah’s Witnesses, where do you find them online? I don’t see many on social media.

I just found this site, and I’m loving it, you guys have a lot of great things to say.

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The governing body KNEW

by FedUpJW in

so i received an email from one of the used-to-be jw friends that now pretty much ignore me.

it was haranguing me about "getting right with gee-ho'-vuh", and how imperative it was to "return to the organization".

it continued on with the worn out argument that "the faithful and discreet slave know what we must do in order to be safe and to live, as gee-ho'-vuh brightens the light to them.

PhilosophicalLogic

I think it’s odd that a picture of people at the Capitol would be used as an indicator of predictive prophecy. If they really know the future, why aren’t they making specific predictions?