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  Does The Thought of Being Disfellowshipped Bother You?

  by minimus in

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  is it realy the worst thing one can go through?

  are you afraid of it??

  has being disfellowshipped actually turned into a "blessing"?

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  scootergirl

  Doesn't bother me one bit..not in the least. In fact, it is a prideful word to me..very empowering.
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  Shunning - what do they think they are accomplishing?

  by mjarka911 in

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  a jw cousin of mine called my jw wife today and asked if i saw my new nephew from my jw sister.

  my wife said "no, his family would never allow him to see the baby!

  " (i'm da'd).

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  Billygoat..that is a great way to look at it! I too think had I not been shunned I probably would have just prolonged my leaving. I was forced a hand that was dealt and have made the best of it and haven't been so happy in my life!
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  Shunning - what do they think they are accomplishing?

  by mjarka911 in

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  a jw cousin of mine called my jw wife today and asked if i saw my new nephew from my jw sister.

  my wife said "no, his family would never allow him to see the baby!

  " (i'm da'd).

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  scootergirl

  I agree..shunning is about control. It a "punishment" of sorts that I believe is intended to make us long for something that has been taken away. It is a way for people to rationalize that they are right, we are wrong. Used to "shake us to our senses" and in my opinion is a form of spiritual abuse. It is a way that the borg uses to protect it's followers from thinking on their own...if they can advocate shunning, then they are trying to minimize any possible doubts among family members of those that have left. You know that they don't want anyone to realize that life doesn't end when you leave the borg. It all boils down to control.

  I too always thought if my parents sincerely wanted me to return to the borg, you would think that they would show me love and compassion. By giving me the cold shoulder and ostracizing me proved to me that I didn't matter.
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  What are yer favorite song lyrics???

  by missy04 in

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  what's everybodys' favorite songs/song lyrics??.

  "boulevard of broken dreams" by greenday.

  "my shadow's the only one that walks beside me.

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  scootergirl

  I love Kris Delmhorst. For those that have never heard of her,she's a contemporary folk singer. To pick just one is difficult for me..but here are a few of her lyrics that just move me.

  Artist Lyrics: Kris Delmhorst
  Song Lyrics: Lullaby 101
  Album Lyrics: Five Stories
  [ Buy " Five Stories " CD ]
  
  Sleep you little soldier boy, with your ear against the wall
  You have held that rifle all of your life, now it's time to let it fall
  
  Sleep you little alibi, with your reasons in a row
  You have turned in circles all of your life just so your shadow wouldn't show
  Dream with me, dream with me, we'll wake in better days,
  And we'll build a boat and we'll hope that it floats
  And then we'll sail, we'll sail away
  
  Seep you little resume, with your head above the crowd
  You have held your breath in all of your life just to make somebody proud
  
  Sleep you little reservoir, let your banks just overflow
  No you can't contain all of that rain, you're gonna have to let it go
  
  Dream with me, dream with me, we'll wake in better light,
  And until we rise with open eyes, goodnight, my love, goodnight
  Yes until some sun wakes everyone, goodnight, my love, goodnight

  Artist Lyrics: Kris Delmhorst
  Song Lyrics: Gave It Away
  Album Lyrics: Five Stories
  [ Buy " Five Stories " CD ]
  
  You live in your prison, the one that you choose
  You'd do anything to have nothing to lose
  And you got scared of escaping just a little too soon
  You give up your shovel and dig with a spoon
  
  You gave it away, gave it away
  
  Oh no now you're out in the cold
  With your rockabye body, your butterfly soul
  Oh no don't you grow old
  You're just finding your way
  
  With the current behind you and a clear summer sky
  You call yourself stranded, a boat by your side
  And your fistful of wishes and your handful of hopes
  You stash them away in the pit of your throat
  
  You save them away, save them away
  
  Oh no now it's taking its toll
  On your rockabye body your butterfly soul
  Oh no don't you grow old
  You're just finding your way, finding it
  
  And I got a dream for you sometime, that you'll admit to the tide
  You'll push out in the ocean and go for a ride
  
  You're sailing away, sailing away
  
  Oh no, don't you let go
  Of your rockabye body, your lullabye soul
  Oh no, don't you grow old
  You just find your way, find your way, find your way
  Back to me
  Back to me

  Artist Lyrics: Kris Delmhorst
  Song Lyrics: Little Wings
  Album Lyrics: Five Stories
  [ Buy " Five Stories " CD ]
  
  Today I went flying in my favorite patch of sky
  I circled and I circled above the world so high
  And I thought to myself, what a lovely lovely thing
  To be up here with the clouds, to be flying right out loud on little wings
  
  Then I met a 747, then he knocked me right out of the sky
  He landed down beside me, he looked me in the eye and said
  I don't know why you even bother, I don't know why you even try
  I don't know where you hope to get to, I don't know how you hope to fly on those little wings
  Little wings
  Little wings
  Little wings
  
  Now I don't want to be a jet airliner, I just want to be a little bird
  I don't want to rip the skies wide open, I just want my song to be heard
  And I don't want to be state of the art, I don't want to get there overnight
  I just want to be part of all this beauty, want to be part of all this flight on little wings
  
  I'll never be a flea in your circus, I'll never be a prop up on your stage,
  I'll never be one more little songbird you can try to keep inside your cage,
  You're never gonna tell me where to fly, you're never gonna tell me what to sing
  And if I end up lost and all alone at least I know I got there on my own two little wings
  
  I guess that you reap what you sow
  I guess it gets lonely at the top
  I guess it gets harder and harder
  To ever really know just when to stop

  Artist Lyrics: Kris Delmhorst
  Song Lyrics: Garden Rose
  Album Lyrics: Five Stories
  [ Buy " Five Stories " CD ]
  
  I have lived as a garden rose,
  It is the only life I've known.
  I've felt the touch of tending hands,
  I get my rain from a watering can.
  
  Now from the time I was a seed,
  I have had everything I need.
  And I grew strong and I grew tall,
  Until the day I saw past the garden wall.
  
  Now tell me something little wildflower,
  Can't you make some room for me?
  'Cause I will climb out of this garden,
  And put my feet down in the weeds.
  
  I always thought that my life was enough,
  Till I saw your face so brilliant and so rough.
  You were shining right back up at the whole sky,
  Handing out smiles, to travelers passing by.
  
  Now tell me something little wildflower,
  Can't you make some room for me?
  'Cause I will climb out of this garden,
  And put my feet down in the weeds.
  
  And if an acorn becomes an oak tree,
  Caterpillar makes a butterfly.
  Oh, then tell me one good reason,
  A rose should not become a weed, by and by.
  
  'Cause don't the sunshine lay the brightest,
  On the shoulders of the wild?
  And don't the breeze lay the sweetest,
  On the face of its own child?
  
  And tell me something, little wildflower,
  Have you made some room for me?
  'Cause I will leave this wall forever,
  A little wildflower I will be.
  Hey, a little wildflower I will be.
  Two little wildflowers we will be.
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  Dissing the WTS

  by LittleToe in

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  i came to a stark realisation, this week, and it's simply this: i no longer feel any need to use derogatory terms about the wts.. i had closure, from leaving the jws, when i da'ed january 2002. around that time i accepted it as being a "cult", whereas before i used the term "high-control group".

  i started using terms such as "borg" and "dub", to describe the wts and jws, and i really do think that helped the process of extracting indoctrinated ideas.. i hate what is being done in the name of that religion, but i see that in other religions, too.

  other than the briefest of moments, i've seen fairly clearly that getting angry or obsessive about a corporate entity is a little futile.

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  Ross...good for you! That moving on process is a very wonderful feeling..very freeing. It sounds like you have worked thru what you needed to and are indeed at a much better place! Often times when people get to a "better place" they simply move on...what is nice to see is there are people (like you and many others) who extend their hands backwards to help others who are right beind make it up that hill of recovery.
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  Scully - You are amazing

  by Uzzah in

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  i just wanted to start a thread to state the obvious.

  simply you are amazing.

  despite all the pressures you face as a mom and a career person you manage to find time to care for others.

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  scootergirl

  I have to jump on this bandwagon too for Scully! She is one member here I truely admire and always seems to know what to say and how to say it. She is an asset to this board and many of us have been priveledged to know her.
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  How did 1975 affect you?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i lived thru the 1975 fiasco.

  many here did too.. on another board there was discussion about the way the congregations were before 1975. some thought that they were like small country churches in some ways.

  we did our own work on repairs at the kingdom hall, like a family.

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  Being I was pretty young in 1975 and don't remember any of the particulars, what reasoning or explanation did the Borg give for their prophecy not coming true? Was their a large influx of people that left or did they somehow get fanagled into staying longer? (sorry, hope this doesn't take thread off track, but I am very interested).
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  "So help me God"

  by onacruse in

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  perhaps this belongs in another forum...but it just got to me today, watching the rice confirmation hearings:.

  a person stands in front of a jurisdictional body (congress, a court, a tribunal...), and swears by god to tell the truth.. as an aside, after the testimony, they may well rent a taxi and pay the driver with a currency that says "in god we trust.".

  now, i've only once been called to testify in a court, and i was, at that time, more than willing to say "so help me god.".

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  scootergirl

  Craig...I was doing some browsing on this topic and came across http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml8773.htm . It is from an atheist forum, but actually was very interesting and some valid points. Thought you may be interested.
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  How did 1975 affect you?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i lived thru the 1975 fiasco.

  many here did too.. on another board there was discussion about the way the congregations were before 1975. some thought that they were like small country churches in some ways.

  we did our own work on repairs at the kingdom hall, like a family.

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  The big way that 1975 effected me was that was the year my parent's decided that we needed to become JW's since the end was coming.
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  It's freezing!! I love it!! My backyard rink!!

  by outbutnotdown in

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  i said it last year and i'll say it again.......... i just love my backyard rink.. .

  i taught all of my children (4) how to skate on my backyard rink.

  besides that, the life-lessons that they have learned extend beyond what words could express.

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  Way to go "son of confusedjw"...that's great!