Posts by ThomasMore

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Missing Monthly Broadcast - May 2015

by Listener in

youtuber millstone research has done a video on the fact that the may 2015 monthly broadcast is no longer on jw org.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/categories/studiomonthlyprograms.

the broadcast was presented by lett who mentions he had the backing of the other gb members regarding his comments.. the broadcast is basically about soliciting jws for funds as well as other 'valuable things' for the organisation.

this is the one where he claims that the money flowing out was more than the money flowing in.

ThomasMore

Since their is no annual financial disclosure for the public to see, we can only observe that KHs are being sold and all money is going back to the Branch. However - if Lett meant that they are paying more than they are getting due to settlement of CSA cases, he may actually be correct,

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DUBTOWN has been resurrected!!

by BoogerMan in

something to cheer about, after the jw cult's failure to silence kevin mcfree.

closed captions/subtitles are facilitated.

enjoy.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqdxo1v8ilm&t=481s.

ThomasMore

Very funny and a damning expose of the ridiculousness at conventions!

1. They are cash cows for WTC

2. They are saturated with canned statements and disingenuous expressions of affection

3. Control is the real theme as every moment is an opportunity to dominate the sheep

4. Children are their burden - a necessary evil for the religion to survive

5. No one remembers anything because nothing is worth remembering!

I recall the seeing a family turned away at the door for arriving without a name badge. They had received an invitation and wanted to see what it was all about so they traveled across town to attend. The attendants did not recall the invitation campaign since they had not participated. They felt empowered to deny access.

It is unlikely that JWs will continue to travel long distances, pay for overnight accomodations, and be talked down to like they are children. I think the numbers will continue to plummet as the beatings intensify.

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Sexual abuse and Jehovah's witnesses- the gift that keep on giving

by wannaexit in

there seems to be no end to the many jw's who sexually abused minors.

here is another story:.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/pa-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-assault-attorney-general-shapiro-20221027.html.

ThomasMore

Ernest, what the KS says to do and what actually happens in a CSA case are often very different. i could cite numerous cases but I am not ready to go public - yet.

in many high profile cases, Legal and the Service desk tossed the KS directions and took the route of damage control instead. You don’t have to believe it - that is your right and I respect that. I speak from real experience.

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Special Talk in Europe this weekend

by BoogerMan in

does anyone have any info about this, and if it's being transmitted in the uk?.

ThomasMore

"Special Talk" simply means "not in the usual weekly schedule". There is nothing special about anything WTC does. It is all Wash, Rinse and Repeat.

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Sexual abuse and Jehovah's witnesses- the gift that keep on giving

by wannaexit in

there seems to be no end to the many jw's who sexually abused minors.

here is another story:.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/pa-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-assault-attorney-general-shapiro-20221027.html.

ThomasMore

Earnest, I appreciate your accuracy in calling out the change of policy. It is true that the policy has changed but it still allows the JC to make some decisions on their own despite their lack of qualifications. They often make judgement calls that reflect lack of proper training. In my dealings with the Branch, their legal advice directed the JC to take the minimal action required by law with no regard for the victim.

Where CSA is concerned, JWs need to call the police and let the police sort through the CRIME. Police are the legally designated entity for dealing with this type of CRIME, and they have resources for determining guilt that JC's do not have. As well, they have trained personnel that know how to assist victims without re-traumatizing them.

Then, based on the findings of the police, the JC could act accordingly with the accused. I am certain that a chimp with half of his brain tied behind his back, could re-write the WTC policy to make it legally correct and helpful. So why are they struggling still? They seek to shield pedophiles who might cut a deal with prosecutors by naming other pedos, unraveling the whole thing.

It is known to law enforcement that pedophiles often know other pedophiles. WTC fears that they will rat others out and the bread crumbs will lead back to Bethel. When a judicial committee calls Legal, there can be long waits while the attorney searches - searches for what? They are supposed to be state experts, but they are conducting other searches. The meta data they have for the 3 databases helps them find links between people. I have long suspected that they are looking to see if relationships might be exposed. The bad advice they have been known to give were rookie mistakes - or were they? Perhaps other former elders could weigh in.

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Watchtower Double Speak

by Vanderhoven7 in

on eternal life.

"none of us are in position to earn god’s gifts, least of all to earn the gift of life.

but we can show ourselves worthy of the gift of eternal life by … dedicating ourselves to jehovah and then proving faithful to that dedication.” (the watchtower, august 15, 1952, p. 485).

ThomasMore

WTC really needs to keep their mouth closed on this subject. They have no freeness of speech when it comes to free gifts and even less where wages are concerned. I would suggest that anyone associating with them wear thick rubber gloves and be grounded properly at all times.

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Apostate Hunter?

by Lost in the fog in

has anyone heard of this jw guy?.

apparently he writes a weekly (weakly?

) blog as well as having written this book where he claims he disses the claims of "apostates".. to know what apostates are saying he has to be engaging with them or tuning into websites like this one, contravening the gb's direction not to do so.

ThomasMore

Sadly, I did my share of apologizing for WTC when I was a starry-eyed follower. Why did I do it? Partly to convince myself because I had lots of doubts and enough insider knowledge to know that the doctrine was wrong (for the most part). I also knew that there was very little genuine love among the R&F and no love at all from the GB who were using the publishers as a cash purse. Eventually I became disgusted with myself and I stopped. Then I left.

Honestly, I feel sorry for tom harley. He is going through the same I went through. Maybe he will eventually find comfort.

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Isn’t It A Materialistic, Even Selfish Hope

by BluesBrother in

as witnesses we always looked forward to the new world but the talks were more about the incoming king and man’s freedom from oppression.

although we looked forward to the good things ,we recognised that initially things may be hard .

we would have to cope with physical work , and lack of many things we were used to today.

ThomasMore

FedUpJw, apostasy is the new racism. Anytime JWs don't like what they hear, they get out the apostasy paintbrush. They cannot be honest with themselves, much less anyone else.

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Another diabolical, disingenuous, nutcase illustration

by Beth Sarim in

this has been weighing on my mind all day,.

i just have to vent and get this off my chest.. the latest jw brainwashing, indoctrination session i think it was a broadcast.

toward the end where the speaker was spouting-off about being in a 'race' again and 'enduring until the end',.

ThomasMore

Jan, I think you hit the nail on the head. WTC needs Armageddon as a stick to get the R&F moving.

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Another Bad Egg

by jonahstourguide in

hi folks.. just another case to prove that the tower organisation has creeps that other organisations do.. they are not special or chosen by god.

i wonder if it will make mainstream new here in oz.

i will paste some of the article in a few minutes.. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahukewi1qogytuv5ahutsmwghv69ab0qfnoecaoqaq&url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.portstephensexaminer.com.au%2fstory%2f7880595%2fqld-parishioner-charged-with-rape-torture%2f%3fcs%3d7&usg=aovvaw3yd9rimx8sarai1vnbehev.

ThomasMore

Bringing abusers to justice is difficult when there are so many lobbying against the effort. That any progress is made at all is remarkable. However, it appears that the spotlight is shing brighter on this criminal activity. Recently the Biden Administration tossed out the statute of limitations on prosecuting pedophiles so there will no doubt be more cases that surface in the U.S.

Reporting child abuse in JW Land still carries a heavy penalty, even when there are multiple witnesses. Speaking out will get you DF'd - period. This is not likely to change until WTC is no more.