WTC really needs to keep their mouth closed on this subject. They have no freeness of speech when it comes to free gifts and even less where wages are concerned. I would suggest that anyone associating with them wear thick rubber gloves and be grounded properly at all times.
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Watchtower Double Speak
by Vanderhoven7 inon eternal life.
"none of us are in position to earn god’s gifts, least of all to earn the gift of life.
but we can show ourselves worthy of the gift of eternal life by … dedicating ourselves to jehovah and then proving faithful to that dedication.” (the watchtower, august 15, 1952, p. 485).
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Apostate Hunter?
by Lost in the fog inhas anyone heard of this jw guy?.
apparently he writes a weekly (weakly?
) blog as well as having written this book where he claims he disses the claims of "apostates".. to know what apostates are saying he has to be engaging with them or tuning into websites like this one, contravening the gb's direction not to do so.
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Sadly, I did my share of apologizing for WTC when I was a starry-eyed follower. Why did I do it? Partly to convince myself because I had lots of doubts and enough insider knowledge to know that the doctrine was wrong (for the most part). I also knew that there was very little genuine love among the R&F and no love at all from the GB who were using the publishers as a cash purse. Eventually I became disgusted with myself and I stopped. Then I left.
Honestly, I feel sorry for tom harley. He is going through the same I went through. Maybe he will eventually find comfort.
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Isn’t It A Materialistic, Even Selfish Hope
by BluesBrother inas witnesses we always looked forward to the new world but the talks were more about the incoming king and man’s freedom from oppression.
although we looked forward to the good things ,we recognised that initially things may be hard .
we would have to cope with physical work , and lack of many things we were used to today.
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FedUpJw, apostasy is the new racism. Anytime JWs don't like what they hear, they get out the apostasy paintbrush. They cannot be honest with themselves, much less anyone else.
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Another diabolical, disingenuous, nutcase illustration
by Beth Sarim inthis has been weighing on my mind all day,.
i just have to vent and get this off my chest.. the latest jw brainwashing, indoctrination session i think it was a broadcast.
toward the end where the speaker was spouting-off about being in a 'race' again and 'enduring until the end',.
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Jan, I think you hit the nail on the head. WTC needs Armageddon as a stick to get the R&F moving.
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Another Bad Egg
by jonahstourguide inhi folks.. just another case to prove that the tower organisation has creeps that other organisations do.. they are not special or chosen by god.
i wonder if it will make mainstream new here in oz.
i will paste some of the article in a few minutes.. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahukewi1qogytuv5ahutsmwghv69ab0qfnoecaoqaq&url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.portstephensexaminer.com.au%2fstory%2f7880595%2fqld-parishioner-charged-with-rape-torture%2f%3fcs%3d7&usg=aovvaw3yd9rimx8sarai1vnbehev.
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Bringing abusers to justice is difficult when there are so many lobbying against the effort. That any progress is made at all is remarkable. However, it appears that the spotlight is shing brighter on this criminal activity. Recently the Biden Administration tossed out the statute of limitations on prosecuting pedophiles so there will no doubt be more cases that surface in the U.S.
Reporting child abuse in JW Land still carries a heavy penalty, even when there are multiple witnesses. Speaking out will get you DF'd - period. This is not likely to change until WTC is no more.
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UN and Governing Body and an accounting
by AnnaNana injoseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
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Linda,
Those were good questions that WTC will never answer. They have prospered materially as they claim to be in the favored position as the true religion. As this comes to an end, accusations fly and the evidence piles up that they were never offering truth, just contrarianism. To gather followers from other religions, they must be divided first.
Jesus said the identiftying mark of his followers was love. Find loving people who believe in Christ and you have identified the ones to associate with as brothers.
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UN and Governing Body and an accounting
by AnnaNana injoseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
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Anna,
Vanderhoven aptly pointed out that Jesus denounced the Scribes and Pharisees - he NEVER apologized for them as they were were unapologetic, knowing fully what they were doing.
On the otherhand, while being executed, he did intercede for the ones who directly executed him, because as he said, "They do not know what they are doing".
Watchtower knows what they are doing and are not attempting to change course. Please don't apologize for them - they are capable of reforming so let them if they so choose.
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"The Truth"
by Ding inwe all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.
it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.
what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.
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It is also part of their decades old branding. The “truth” is theirs and theirs only, even if it changes faster than Meme stocks. They have it because they are “special” and the only ones marked for survival. That message sells AND controls the buyers who purchase it.
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Sexual abuse and Jehovah's witnesses- the gift that keep on giving
by wannaexit inthere seems to be no end to the many jw's who sexually abused minors.
here is another story:.
https://www.inquirer.com/news/pa-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-assault-attorney-general-shapiro-20221027.html.
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The inquiries and charges and lawsuits against JWs and WTC have been ongoing for a number of years and still, WTC continues to address them the same way, despite their financial losses and incredibly bad reputational damage. WHY???
Their acceptance of losing over and over defies logic. They were counseled by a secular firm to change their position - still they resist doing what is right morally. WHY????
WTC will not capitulate and end the damage to victims AND themselves…. WHY???????
When a rat is willing to chew its own leg off rather than remain in a trap, it is a sign he knows he will die otherwise. I suspect that WTC knows that any compromise will result in the exposure of all the abusers in their 3 databases. Those databases surely contain names and details that would destroy any confidence still had by the R&F in the GB and the shadow leadership at Bethels throughout the world.
I can find no other explanation for their madness. The excuses they make are lame beyond what anyone could dream up in a think tank of 3rd graders.
Tell me where I am wrong.
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Suspected Washington Kingdom Halls arsonist arrested
by Corney inas many probably remember, in 2018-2020, multiple kingdom and assembly halls were set on fire in the state of washington, so fbi, atf, local sheriff and arson alarm foundation offered $61,000 in rewards for information leading to arrest of the arsonist.
the attacks (seven arsons and one shooting) included:.
march 19, 2018: two arson attacks - one at a tumwater kingdom hall and the second at a kingdom hall on cain road in olympia.
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WTC is self-insured so their zeal to identify an arsonist is equal to their losses.
I could be wrong… but I also know WTC.
Thankfully no one was physically injured.