Posts by Tricked

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Quote about Honesty and lies of omission in latest Watchtower.

by cappytan in

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jesus honestly identified himself as the messiah, even though his truthful admission could allow the sanhedrin to claim that he was a blasphemer and could lead to his execution.—matt.

will we be honest in situations where a slight omission or twist of words might bring us material gain?.

article here.

Tricked

I can't imagine Jackson going outside and weeping bitterly. Rather, I imagine he patted himself on the back for his slimy half-truths.

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i used to think (having been d myself, when younger) that it was a loving arrangement set up by a loving god to keep the congregation clean, & to give the unrepentant wrong doer time out to think about what they had done.

when ready they could come back, apologize & all is forgiven.

what a first class clown i was.

Tricked

My attitude towards that sister who was disfellowshipped always pricked my conscience. She was my first experience of someone I know being DF'd and I regret that I didn't make more of an effort to speak to her - I can only imagine how lonely and isolated she must have been as a single Mother. Our only communication was by text and a couple of awkward calls. I did look after her kids on a few occasions after she was DF'd, but she would wait in the car when she came to pick them up and I was just so unsure of what to do. I struggled with not wanting to stumble her as at the time I was sure that I was wrong in my views of DF'ing - that perhaps I wasn't spiritually mature enough to see it as loving. The sisters that studied with me tried hard to convince me that it was a loving provision, yet, I allowed my instincts to be quashed when it is so blatantly wrong. I did recently contact her to apologize. She is planning on returning. I didn't have the courage to tell her that I knew the TATT.

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Ten years out.....

by snare&racket in

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i'm not sure how useful this post will be, but i feel compelled to write it.

with many of my older posts, i wrote them with a younger jw version of me in mind.

with this i write it with a younger newly ex jw in mind.. ten years ago i went to my presiding overseer and told him my concerns about wt owning 'rand cam' military stocks, about unfulfilled prophecy and human error in the governing body and the theocratic consequences of such.

Tricked

"This forum is a welcome refuge and resource and if you look back through the decades you will see a trend of personalities, coming, going, being core contributors for some years whilst they repair the wounds and establish a real life, then they move on. This is how I have experienced this forum too. If you feel almost addicted and dependant to this place after leaving or starting to question, don't worry it's a safe haven and it wears off as you strengthen and rebuild your life. This place is an emotional crutch and in being such a huge help, it takes some time to walk away from." - this sums it up perfectly for me!

Glad to hear things are going well for you. Thank your sage words - very encouraging.

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Disfellowshipping

by Sabin in

i used to think (having been d myself, when younger) that it was a loving arrangement set up by a loving god to keep the congregation clean, & to give the unrepentant wrong doer time out to think about what they had done.

when ready they could come back, apologize & all is forgiven.

what a first class clown i was.

Tricked

This "loving" provision is anything but loving or merciful. I knew a disfellowshipped sister who called to see if I could pick up her kids from school and look after them for a couple of hours after she got caught up in car accident which closed the whole highway. It wasn't a problem for me to do this as I was there anyway and the fact that I never agreed with the shunning policy. Anyway, another Sister see's me walking back with the disfellowshipped sisters kids and counsels me on not even "saying Hello to a disfellowshipped one, never mind doing them favours and how it would be better if this one was to learn a lesson of how hard the real world is". I explained the kids were innocent and my conscience would be scarred if I held the sins of their Mother against them.

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Should I stay or should I go?

by olongapo joe in

hello all, i love reading all of your experiences, and trials and tribulations ( isn't that very jw'ish)?

while most of my life experiences have almost nothing to do with jw's, as i was never baptized and never believed( in the bible) past the 5th grade, it makes me feel good to contribute a post or two here, i tend to go off on subjects that are probably not very jermaine to the main subject of this site.

i do really enjoy all of your comments and the time and effort simon and the other moderators spend to make this a truly inspiring site.

Tricked

Thank you Terry. I now have another book to add to my must-read list.

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Saturday Let the Games Begin

by Poztate in

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the start of a new memorial season is upon us.

saturday is the day for the start of the invites to look but not touch the bread and wine.

the "observer class" is a belief unique to jehovah's witnesses.. along with the invite to the masses a special effort is being made this year by the elders to invite all the df's, da's and faders.. along with the invite a copy of the rtj will be left with them.. naturally we will still be treated as pariah's if we do attend but it is the thought that counts.. i am of the "fader class" as i don't wish to rock the boat with my wife and extended family.

Tricked

Yes, I was out too and had some flowers and a card left. I didn't recognise the name on the card but it was signed off "warmest Christian love".

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Saturday Let the Games Begin

by Poztate in

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friends

the start of a new memorial season is upon us.

saturday is the day for the start of the invites to look but not touch the bread and wine.

the "observer class" is a belief unique to jehovah's witnesses.. along with the invite to the masses a special effort is being made this year by the elders to invite all the df's, da's and faders.. along with the invite a copy of the rtj will be left with them.. naturally we will still be treated as pariah's if we do attend but it is the thought that counts.. i am of the "fader class" as i don't wish to rock the boat with my wife and extended family.

Tricked

I'm planning on DA'ing but it's going to be on my timeline, not theirs. I will try and be out tomorrow with my family so I don't need to speak to them. I have an unbelieving husband that I haven't told yet.

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Saturday Let the Games Begin

by Poztate in

jw
friends

the start of a new memorial season is upon us.

saturday is the day for the start of the invites to look but not touch the bread and wine.

the "observer class" is a belief unique to jehovah's witnesses.. along with the invite to the masses a special effort is being made this year by the elders to invite all the df's, da's and faders.. along with the invite a copy of the rtj will be left with them.. naturally we will still be treated as pariah's if we do attend but it is the thought that counts.. i am of the "fader class" as i don't wish to rock the boat with my wife and extended family.

Tricked

Yes, I'm wondering if I'll get a knock on my door. I haven't been to a meeting since the end of November and no contact so far. My doorbell rang today and I could see 2 Elders wife's who don't even say "hello" to me at the KH. I ignored them thinking they were just wanting to use toilet but wondering if they had been sent to test me out. Hate that people that don't know me and have never made any effort to get to know me have been given my home address.

I did think no-one had noticed me missing but maybe I'm now on radar?

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The Curious Case Of Brother B

by pale.emperor in

there was a case in my old congregation that is shrouded in mystery that i'd like to share and get your views.

this is something i've wanted to talk about for years but it's strongly shot down if you even try to talk about it in my old congregation.. it involves a certain brother b.. in my old congregation this brother was well liked.

as a kid, we all knew him for being fascinated with dinosaurs.

Tricked

I'm thinking he probably woke up and was labelled a suspected "Apostate", never to be spoken of again. I also knew two elders that just never came back to meetings, just went inactive and I was always mystified by it. It's only recently I've managed to get out of the JW mindset and realise what probably happened.

I was always shocked how disfellowshipped ones were never spoken of again too.

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JW Brothers

by Festus in

there is a group called jw brothers in facebook.

somebody has posted an article that catholic church has covered up child abuse.. http://www.myfoxboston.com/news/national-content/catholic-bishops-not-obligated-to-report-clerical-sex-abuse-vatican-says/72976327.

this is what somebody had posted as reply:.

Tricked

Looks like he is still posting on the thread in reply to the JW comments of those who feel they might lose a member:

Therealginna Misshynek Bill Jones all i say is that Jehovah God will deal with all sort of wickedness, outside or within the organisation. don't lose your focus on the truth because of whos doing what. but keep in mind that just because some elders else where in the world chose to best withhold a certain offensive matter, it doesn't mean the whole organisation is included. and in anycase, be careful that this does not draw you from the truth. it is Jehovah you worship, not the organisation. i pray that any discouragement you may be facing be dealt with with Jehovah's help. i would not want to lose you, you are my brother

Bill Jones I was taught that the organisation was The Truth. Realizing that was just another lie is devastating. My relationship with Jehovah will not be damaged. If anything, I have been able to study more and look at things in a better light now that I know that the GB are not the FDS but rather our slave-masters burdening their followers with ever more demands for more donations, more service, more meetings, more comments, more study, more 'new light' to keep us busy.