The Rebel
Buddha remained silent when asked about God. If he were a believer in God—whatever may be his belief—that was most favorable opportunity for him to speak of his mind about God—but he did not
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Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!
by anointed1 ini got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.
while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.
the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.
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Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!
by anointed1 ini got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.
while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.
the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.
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I got up today to listen to the shocking news that Russia’s ambassador to Turkey was assassinated at an Ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of God.
It seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa. While religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of God, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality. The French existentialists and writers Jean-Paul Sartre and Albert Camus were some of them. Most Greek and Roman philosophers and writers like Diogenes, Epicurus, Sophocles …. etc. never believed in the gods of Greeks and Romans and yet they were great moralists, who followed universal values. Gautama Buddha never believed in any god or supernatural power. In fact, the core of Buddha's philosophy is atheism. Yet, Buddha is still considered to be an epitome of compassion and rectitude.
In contrast, many who believe in God have no problem in trampling upon the rights of others either in a violent way or in a subtle way as some do by refusing even to greet their former associates (which is worse than physical killing).
It seems there is no solution because people have lost their ability to understand. Many read in their Bible that Jesus was the “servant of God” (Act 3:13) yet they understand that He was God himself. Then there are other who read that good people of old testament will go to “heaven” (Mathew 8:11), and understand heaven as earth.
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Why was corruption of scriptures not prevented?
by anointed1 inmany bracketed portions in the scriptures, influence of foreign myths and unscientific teachings … etc show that scriptures have been corrupted.
even when they are not corrupted, religious teachings have often no effect even on direct disciples (when jesus was teaching, his immediate disciples were thinking about who was going to be first in the organization—something that happened in all religions which led into their infighting and divisions).
at the same time there are many good people among materialists, why?
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You say: I am “arguing for divinity by some supposedly positive facets of creation while ignoring other facets of nature that do not fit in their/your model”
No, I was actually saying why some materialists are better than religionists. (see my OP: “At the same time there are many good people among materialists, why? Because they are led by an uncorruptible teaching available everywhere)
I have a different perspective about materialist: they are the creation of religionists.
When religionists go into one extreme (doing inhuman things such as violation of human rights) this become the cause for the other extreme to appear—materialist. Thus existence of atheists offsets against the extremities of the religionists—thus atheists do a great favor to the humanity. In God’s eyes, materialists are better than religionists because religionists use God as a means to get material blessings from God (means their actual love is towards things of God, not God) which means God is used, not loved.
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Jesus Christ was no Moses
by smiddy inmoses has a history of what 80+ years as a servant of jehovah ?
in one form or another .. moses wrote / penned the first five books of the bible and went through many trials and tribulations in serving his god jehovah in his long lifetime.interacting with god at times.. jesus was born and nothing is recorded of him until he is a young adolescent child ?
and very little about him.. then we are introduced to him when he is 30 years old and gets baptised ,and only then does he start his preaching .. does he start preaching to the world ?
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Yet there is an interesting similarity
Moses performed many miracles, yet people did not change (except Joshua and Caleb) because of which God abandoned them in the desert.
Jesus too performed many miracles—including resurrection, yet none of the recipients came for his support nor for preaching after his death.
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Why was corruption of scriptures not prevented?
by anointed1 inmany bracketed portions in the scriptures, influence of foreign myths and unscientific teachings … etc show that scriptures have been corrupted.
even when they are not corrupted, religious teachings have often no effect even on direct disciples (when jesus was teaching, his immediate disciples were thinking about who was going to be first in the organization—something that happened in all religions which led into their infighting and divisions).
at the same time there are many good people among materialists, why?
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anointed1
My premise is simple:
1) If scriptures were God’s word, He would not have permitted it to be corrupted.
2) Even if it is not corrupted, still it does not serve the purpose. For example, disciples who were directly taught by Jesus understood Jesus as “servant of God.” (Acts 3:13) Yet, Christianity understands him to be as God Himself. Jesus taught good people of OT will also go to heaven. (Mathew 8:11), yet JWs understand heaven as earth.
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Why was corruption of scriptures not prevented?
by anointed1 inmany bracketed portions in the scriptures, influence of foreign myths and unscientific teachings … etc show that scriptures have been corrupted.
even when they are not corrupted, religious teachings have often no effect even on direct disciples (when jesus was teaching, his immediate disciples were thinking about who was going to be first in the organization—something that happened in all religions which led into their infighting and divisions).
at the same time there are many good people among materialists, why?
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I am also aware of such exceptions like meteor. However that does not belittle the glory of billions of planets and stars keeping to their orbit. I take lesson from the whole-sale lesson universe teaches us.
Regarding carnivorous animals, I do not have any explanation. Here too all animals are not carnivorous, and from this I take my lesson.
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Why Jehovah's Witnesses are WRONG about Christmas
by David_Jay inas you know (and are probably tired of hearing me repeat), i’m jewish.
yes, i was a jehovah’s witness when i was a teenager and into my 20s, but returned to my roots and now celebrate chanukah when the holiday season comes around each year.. so why am i writing about christmas?
well, that’s because i thought i would share something about how jehovah’s witnesses teach against christmas.
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Wine was not the part of Passover celebration. Jesus included it, ever since wine became part of memorial celebration.
Hence you are right about your view about x'mas in contrast to JW view.
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Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses Holds Women Back
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.fairobserver.com/region/europe/jehovahs-witnesses-women-religion-serena-williams-news-81664/.
by lydia segebrecht december 16, 2016. an open letter to serena williams about jehovah’s witnesses’ treatment of women.. dear serena,.
i want to start by applauding everything you said in your open letter that was reproduced on the guardian website last week.
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anointed1
Gender discrimination is a later adoption, rather deterioration. Earlier portions of the Bible presents God in various roles—even in feminine terms such as mother. (Deuteronomy 32:11-12; Isaiah 49:15; 66:13; Hosea 11:3-4 ….)
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Why was corruption of scriptures not prevented?
by anointed1 inmany bracketed portions in the scriptures, influence of foreign myths and unscientific teachings … etc show that scriptures have been corrupted.
even when they are not corrupted, religious teachings have often no effect even on direct disciples (when jesus was teaching, his immediate disciples were thinking about who was going to be first in the organization—something that happened in all religions which led into their infighting and divisions).
at the same time there are many good people among materialists, why?
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anointed1
Many bracketed portions in the scriptures, influence of foreign myths and unscientific teachings … etc show that scriptures have been corrupted. Even when they are not corrupted, religious teachings have often no effect even on direct disciples (when Jesus was teaching, his immediate disciples were thinking about who was going to be first in the organization—something that happened in all religions which led into their infighting and divisions)
At the same time there are many good people among materialists, why? Because they are led by an uncorruptible teaching available everywhere:
1) The incomprehensibly vast size of the universe teaches how insignificant our earth and all its inhabitants are (gives no basis for anyone to feel self-important)
2) The way planets and stars act too teaches us humility! They move around keeping to their orbits just like vehicles follow lane-discipline on a busy express highway (as though submitting themselves to some unseen authority).
3) Plants produce fragrant and beautiful flowers and trees produce fruits for others to enjoy (not for themselves). They too are living lessons of humility.
4) All the stories and histories written show that those who pursued self-importance reaped misery in the end.
Thus humans are soaked in the information that ego means trouble (conversely, going egoless means peace and prosperity)
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devil question
by Carol1111 ini had a discussion with 4 jws today and they told me that jesus could not be tempted, ( they say that he would not be perfect if he could) but also they told me that satan tempted jesus in the wilderness.. can anyone clarify their beliefs please.
i like to give them a reasoned argument when i talk to them, but have never noticed this conflict of ideas before..
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1) Temptation account is not real. If real, it would mean that Satan and Jesus believed that shape of earth is flat so that both can see "all the kingdoms of the earth" if viewed from the mountain top.
2) Genesis account of Satan is borrowed from pagans, hence not worthy of analysis. Even if it is original, details does not befit the kind of satan he should be. If Satan is so smart as to scheme against God and his children, he would definitely choose some smart method, not a sub-standard temptation as in this case. It is too obvious that Adam and Eve who had already experienced God as their unlimited benefactor would never believe God as withholding something good from them, nor He is a liar, especially when such a malicious suggestion originated from a stranger—with a strange phenomenon—a snake with speaking ability! Also Satan contradicted only the effects of their disobedience, which of course further weakens his position, because prima facie, it is the Law-giver that knows the effects of disobedience, not the spectators who have never seen a violation before.