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  Is account of Ananias & Sapphira genuine?

  by anointed1 in

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  1) ananias “sold a piece of property… and kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.” (acts 5:1, 2) peter interpreted the whole incident as unbecoming of believers as they created the impression that they are giving full amount received from the sale of their property, and told the wife of ananias: “the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” (acts 5:9).

  death sentence for slightly exaggerating one’s generosity?.

  2) in this incident, peter seems to be over-righteous!

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  anointed1

  stillin

  Yes, you got it. If the account is genuine, no untruth would have been permitted
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  Questions for the Biblical God

  by Saethydd in

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  i consider myself an agnostic, i feel no sense of certainty that there is a single all-powerful creator who made the entire universe, and yet i must acknowledge that the universe is a large place that is filled with much beauty so the possibility of an intelligent mind being behind it is certainly there.

  lately, however, i do have more and more doubts about the god of the bible being a candidate for that all-powerful creator should such a being even exist at all.. these doubts are founded upon a number of questions for which i have never found any satisfying biblical or logical answer.

  instead, i was simply chided with the remark that "god's actions aren't always meant to be understood by humans," which i found to be a very unsatisfying answer.

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  anointed1

  I believe even atheists are the part of God’s design. When religionists go into one extreme (doing inhuman things such as violation of human rights and religious atrocities of the Dark Ages…) this become the cause for the other extreme to appear—materialists. Thus existence of atheists offsets against the extremities of the religionists—thus atheists do a great favor to the humanity. In God’s eyes, atheists are better than religionists because religionists use God as a means to get material blessings from God (means their actual love is towards things of God, not God) which means God is used (like a carpet), not loved.
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  Is account of Ananias & Sapphira genuine?

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) ananias “sold a piece of property… and kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.” (acts 5:1, 2) peter interpreted the whole incident as unbecoming of believers as they created the impression that they are giving full amount received from the sale of their property, and told the wife of ananias: “the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” (acts 5:9).

  death sentence for slightly exaggerating one’s generosity?.

  2) in this incident, peter seems to be over-righteous!

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  anointed1

  smiddy, that is a great thought: Ananias & Sapphira`s account happened after Jesus resurrection so by all accounts any other infringement should be punished
  
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  Is account of Ananias & Sapphira genuine?

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) ananias “sold a piece of property… and kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.” (acts 5:1, 2) peter interpreted the whole incident as unbecoming of believers as they created the impression that they are giving full amount received from the sale of their property, and told the wife of ananias: “the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” (acts 5:9).

  death sentence for slightly exaggerating one’s generosity?.

  2) in this incident, peter seems to be over-righteous!

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  anointed1

  Please note the typographical error in point no 3

  3) Ananias & Sapphira did not commit a serious crime as to invoke death-sentence on them—Even David who murdered his faithful soldier and stole his wife at a time when he had many wives and concubines was not given death-sentence but he is even presented in good light in the Bible. (Revelation 22:16)
  
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  Is account of Ananias & Sapphira genuine?

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) ananias “sold a piece of property… and kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.” (acts 5:1, 2) peter interpreted the whole incident as unbecoming of believers as they created the impression that they are giving full amount received from the sale of their property, and told the wife of ananias: “the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” (acts 5:9).

  death sentence for slightly exaggerating one’s generosity?.

  2) in this incident, peter seems to be over-righteous!

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  anointed1

  1) Ananias “sold a piece of property… and kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.” (Acts 5:1, 2) Peter interpreted the whole incident as unbecoming of believers as they created the impression that they are giving full amount received from the sale of their property, and told the wife of Ananias: “The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” (Acts 5:9). Death sentence for slightly exaggerating one’s generosity?

  2) In this incident, Peter seems to be over-righteous! Peter forgot his own use of exaggeration—“Peter said: “Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will” and yet he fell away repeatedly! (Mathew 26:33)

  3) Ananias & Sapphira did not commit a serious crime as to invoke death-sentence on them—Even David who murdered his faithful soldier and stole his wife at a time when he had many wives and concubines was not only given death-sentence but also is presented in good light in the Bible. (Revelation 22:16)

  4) When one sells his property and gives the bulk of it for religious cause, the whole spirit behind such an action is commendably good. Keeping a portion with the donor himself for his need is part of being practical—a course of action Jesus himself advocated through his famous parable of Shrewd Manager (Luke 16:1-9) and through direct commandment to his apostles (Luke 22:35, 36)

  In view of the above, do you think the account of Ananias and Sapphira is genuine? Or could it be a cooked up story to steal the money from the gullible?
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  Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!

  by anointed1 in

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  i got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.

  while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.

  the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.

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  anointed1

  The Rebel,

  I agree with you. The point is:

  when atheist behaves better than religionist, it becomes a news

  and when a religionist behaves goes inconsiderate, it too becomes a news
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  Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.

  while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.

  the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.

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  anointed1

  Viviane,

  Let Buddha’s silence mean whatever, it has nothing to do with my subject. I was just contrasting two groups. A person who does not believe in God has no obligation to care for anyone whereas a person who believes in God feels obliged to care for others. In this context one can ask: How can atheists care for others whereas religionists go in opposite direction? Situation is similar to Fire-force personnel who shy away from putting out fire on somebody else’s property whereas the passersby [in this context atheists ]venture into and put off the fire.
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  Many of the atheists are doing better than religionists!

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got up today to listen to the shocking news that russia’s ambassador to turkey was assassinated at an ankara art exhibit, and assassin was acting in the name of god.. it seems things have evolved to the other extreme that atheists are doing the work of religionists and vice versa.

  while religionists take delight in killing fellow humans in the name of god, there were many atheists who followed very elevated morality.

  the french existentialists and writers jean-paul sartre and albert camus were some of them.

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  anointed1

  viviane,

  Have you ever asked any Buddhist: "who is your God?" [I have asked as I have worked in a Buddhist country]

  If not, here is the question in their website:

  Do Buddhists believe in a god?

  No, we do not.

  http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/qanda03.htm
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  Ananias & Sapphire and JWs

  by anointed1 in

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  when people like ananias and sapphire tried to take the honor that did not belong to them, they were instantly struck with death-penalty.

  (acts 5:1-11) when jws did the same taking the glory of being god’s spokesperson on earth (by proclaiming to the world something as though god revealed to them—eg “generation that saw the events of 1914 would not pass away”) god did not respond.

  in the same vein, when moses and aaron said “they were going to bring water from the rock” (instead of jehovah), god punished them instantly.

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  anointed1

  Thank you nicolaou
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  Ananias & Sapphire and JWs

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when people like ananias and sapphire tried to take the honor that did not belong to them, they were instantly struck with death-penalty.

  (acts 5:1-11) when jws did the same taking the glory of being god’s spokesperson on earth (by proclaiming to the world something as though god revealed to them—eg “generation that saw the events of 1914 would not pass away”) god did not respond.

  in the same vein, when moses and aaron said “they were going to bring water from the rock” (instead of jehovah), god punished them instantly.

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  anointed1

  When people like Ananias and Sapphire tried to take the honor that did not belong to them, they were instantly struck with death-penalty. (Acts 5:1-11) When JWs did the same taking the glory of being God’s spokesperson on earth (by proclaiming to the world something as though God revealed to them—eg “Generation that saw the events of 1914 would not pass away”) God did not respond. In the same vein, when Moses and Aaron said “They were going to bring water from the rock” (instead of Jehovah), God punished them instantly. This would mean either the Bible account of Ananias & Sapphire and Moses & Aaron are wrong, or JWs are in for a big surprise.

  Jehovah has in the past blocked ill-happening coming on His people. When Balaam went to curse His people, Jehovah blocked the curse by using his angel and a donkey. When JWs proceeded to travel in the direction of a cursed destination of non-fulfillment of their biggest prophecy about “the generation of 1914” (which Newsweek magazine described as the “lie of the century”), why did not Jehovah block it from happening?