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  The Deity of Jesus Christ

  by Reciprocity in

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  fair warning, i am not a jehovah's witness believer, but i am curious about what it is you believe and why you believe it.

  so i am interested in talking to you instead of reading about you from my own christian perspective.

  after all, who understands what jehovah's witness believes better than a jehovah's witness?

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  MMM- according to the Bible, God, Christ, and demons are spirits having spiritual bodies- not flesh and blood.
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  The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

  by Revealed in

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  simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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  so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

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  Vanderhoven7, I am a Christian, know Jehovah and Jesus personally- and they are my Saviors, being 'justified' by Christ's blood- but find it hard to believe I have get Eternal Life for all my faults!
  
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  The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

  by Revealed in

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  simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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  so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

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  Diogenesister, I don't trust ones that have a theological background; they are foreordained to accept the schools standards, or will fail.

  ANYONE can read the NT as find out!

  James 1:5- If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives to all men generously and without reproaching, and it will be given him.
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  I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

  by Revealed in

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  ...why have you left the god and his son?.

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  Very good! At least you gave it you best!

  Because of Adam & Eve's rebellion, mankind had a primitive and corrupt start.

  The Bible shows that- as well as archaeology.

  Unlike every other writing of human history, the faults of even the most revered individuals is shown,

  The brief accounts often left pieces out- but then if included would have made it impossibly long,

  Science and history go hand it hand- except when getting far back in time!
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  I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

  by Revealed in

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  ...why have you left the god and his son?.

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  Some beliefs are WORTH clinging to!
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  The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

  by Revealed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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  so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

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  There are apostates to man and GOD.

  I was a apostate (of a Church) before I knew about God and Jesus.
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  I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

  by Revealed in

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  ...why have you left the god and his son?.

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  • The creation account of Genesis is allegorical and is partially plagiarized from the Sumerian tale of Gilgamesh.
  • The flood account of Genesis is scientifically impossible and appears plagiarized from the Sumerian tale of Gilgamesh.

  The account is the ONLY ONE that agrees with science, and I'm surprised you have given credence to Gilgamesh, a story probably dreamed up by Nimrod- unless, of course, you don't believe he existed...

  • We today can trace the origin of languages. There was no Tower of Babel language creating event.

  Really? Did language magically happen as people started to spread abroad? Or do you believe that apes developed it in different places on their own?

  • The is no evidence that Moses ever lived.

  SURE THERE IS! The Egyptian media was all over it!

  • The historical Israel appears to be a Canaanite tribe that was repeatedly conquered by world powers. Fearing that their culture would disappear as was common of conquered/occupied people, this particular tribe created a mythology in which they are a special people, chosen by a monotheistic god, that would one day be freed from captivity and rule over all other nations. The religion created by these Canaanites borrowed from Zoroastrian beliefs as the Persians were the current conquerors. The god created(YHWH) is an angry, jealous, bloodthirsty persona who approves of whole sale slaughter of people to occupy their land, unless those people use iron chariots (YHWY cannot defeat iron chariots).

  It "appears" you had other reasons for doubting, VERY little is know for certain about that time- even LESS before that.

  • There is no evidence of a person named "Jesus". 2,000 years ago there was no town or city of Nazareth. That area was a wilderness that possibly had a few farms. No one during that time would be referred to as a "Nazarene".
  • There is no evidence that this Jesus was executed by the Romans, was buried, and then was resurrected 3 days later.

  That just isn't true- and I believe it would be a waste of my time to look up the sources, you 'know' it all anyways.

  But thanks for answering!
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  The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

  by Revealed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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  so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

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  They are...apostates...
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  Who or What is the Holy Spirit?

  by FusionTheism in

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  tradition within christianity has long been that any time the phrases holy spirit, holy ghost, or spirit of godare used in the bible (especially in the new testament), it always refers to the mysterious third divine person of the trinity, who is fully god, co-equal to the father and son, yet somehow distinct.. i want to present a simplified alternative view: let the context determine the meaning!.

  (one thing to keep in mind is that the meaning of the bible words used for spirit basically is unseen force or invisible presence.).

  the holy spirit as the mind and personality of god.

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  The holy spirt was in ... JOB'S NOSE!

  Job 27:3- All the while my breath is in me, and the Spirit of God is in my nostrils...

  Why is it never translated there as "Ghost'?
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  The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

  by Revealed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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  so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

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  Jesus denied he was God, constantly telling all he would be RETURNING to Him.