tradition within christianity has long been that any time the phrases holy spirit, holy ghost, or spirit of godare used in the bible (especially in the new testament), it always refers to the mysterious third divine person of the trinity, who is fully god, co-equal to the father and son, yet somehow distinct.. i want to present a simplified alternative view: let the context determine the meaning!.
(one thing to keep in mind is that the meaning of the bible words used for spirit basically is unseen force or invisible presence.).
the holy spirit as the mind and personality of god.
Most overlook what the words "spirit" and "spiritual" mean!
A disgusting example, JWs are told that they are given "Spiritual Food" from the GB!
Anyone know what "spiritual" means in the Biblical sense?
(You don't need to whip out Bible Dictionaries)
fair warning, i am not a jehovah's witness believer, but i am curious about what it is you believe and why you believe it.
so i am interested in talking to you instead of reading about you from my own christian perspective.
after all, who understands what jehovah's witness believes better than a jehovah's witness?
MMM- according to the Bible, God, Christ, and demons are spirits having spiritual bodies- not flesh and blood.
simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.
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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.
Vanderhoven7, I am a Christian, know Jehovah and Jesus personally- and they are my Saviors, being 'justified' by Christ's blood- but find it hard to believe I have get Eternal Life for all my faults!
simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.
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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.
Diogenesister, I don't trust ones that have a theological background; they are foreordained to accept the schools standards, or will fail.
ANYONE can read the NT as find out!
James 1:5- If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives to all men generously and without reproaching, and it will be given him.
...why have you left the god and his son?.
Very good! At least you gave it you best!
Because of Adam & Eve's rebellion, mankind had a primitive and corrupt start.
The Bible shows that- as well as archaeology.
Unlike every other writing of human history, the faults of even the most revered individuals is shown,
The brief accounts often left pieces out- but then if included would have made it impossibly long,
Science and history go hand it hand- except when getting far back in time!
...why have you left the god and his son?.
Some beliefs are WORTH clinging to!
simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.
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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.
There are apostates to man and GOD.
I was a apostate (of a Church) before I knew about God and Jesus.
...why have you left the god and his son?.
The account is the ONLY ONE that agrees with science, and I'm surprised you have given credence to Gilgamesh, a story probably dreamed up by Nimrod- unless, of course, you don't believe he existed...
Really? Did language magically happen as people started to spread abroad? Or do you believe that apes developed it in different places on their own?
SURE THERE IS! The Egyptian media was all over it!
It "appears" you had other reasons for doubting, VERY little is know for certain about that time- even LESS before that.
That just isn't true- and I believe it would be a waste of my time to look up the sources, you 'know' it all anyways.
But thanks for answering!
simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.
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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.
They are...apostates...
tradition within christianity has long been that any time the phrases holy spirit, holy ghost, or spirit of godare used in the bible (especially in the new testament), it always refers to the mysterious third divine person of the trinity, who is fully god, co-equal to the father and son, yet somehow distinct.. i want to present a simplified alternative view: let the context determine the meaning!.
(one thing to keep in mind is that the meaning of the bible words used for spirit basically is unseen force or invisible presence.).
the holy spirit as the mind and personality of god.
The holy spirt was in ... JOB'S NOSE!
Job 27:3- All the while my breath is in me, and the Spirit of God is in my nostrils...
Why is it never translated there as "Ghost'?
