What you have there mate is a fundamental floor in your monotheism. This particular model has had so many different dogmas stuck in it as it's been passed from culture to culture it's lost all meaning. If you really want to ask the questions of all religions the ask a polytheist or better yet just enjoy the story for what it is.
BlackPuddingEater
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Sin and death - how does it make sense to ANY believer of ANY religion?
by BourneIdentity insince adam and eve’s fall, we are all sinners.
it’s what we do, there is no way to change it, sinning is a daily part of life.
there are major sins, but most of us commit minor ones everyday in words, thoughts or deeds.
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PIMI wife is not like normal women or mothers who have that natural affect.
by goingthruthemotions inis it me who thinks this.......jw pimi or pomi women lack natural affection toward there children, family and human's.. it must be the indoctrination that strips these emotions.
i see it in my wife all the time, when she talks with non jw people she is like "meh" i got to talk with you.. when she talks with jw people, she has a cult emotion like "yes my people" .
she is screwed in the head, the more that time goes by i want to leave her and get a divorce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's your basic othering. No brainwashing needed there, just a large enough group of fellow like minded right thinking people. Some can not think beyond the safe and simple binary view of them and us. Worldly is other, worldly is bad, worldly is common, therefore to be other than worldly is to be good and special.
Are people made that way? If their views are not challenged do they naturally seek a lifestyle that suits that way of thinking? I think we are the owners of our own emotional development and if we do not distance ourselves from unbenificial influences on us or our loved ones then that itself shows a deflected character.
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People in England were easiy convinced to believe....
by BoogerMan in....that a mass killer was roaming their streets.
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now theyre struggling to believe the grim reaper is not so grim and it's safe to go outside again.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-52669441.
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Safe distance, hand washing and no face touching, basic OCD behaviour If we could all be trusted with these three simple things we would have a controllable R number. We can't though. On the street, at work and in the shops people are making a pathetic protest against no one by showing how not bothered they are, flick those guys.
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Could Boris "save the NHS & lives" by BANNING Covid 19?
by BoogerMan inobviously not, but he could do so by banning an even greater killer - tobacco.
smoking has been identified as the single greatest cause of preventable illness and premature death in all 4 nations of the u.k. .
annually, in scotland approximately 10,000 die, in wales, 5000, and in n.i.
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Having just given up tobacco 3 months ago after 35 years of its misuse I am an ardent non smoker now and heartily agree with the proposition. Providing that he makes it legal to smoke a little something something in its place.
Thing is my former fag toking pie-curious lifestyle was not contagious and did not put an unexpected burden on the NHS. Unexpected no but it was unnecessary. The current highlighting in the UK of health and the NHS has spured me on as I think it has done to many. The morning after that nice Mr Johnson (he's from a bastard line of the Hannovarians you know, born to lead) made his polite request that we stay at home while the government pay 80% wages and salaries to a quarter of the workforce, I was on the way to work. As I drove past a llaying field a fellow salad dodger was out doing his Boris jog. I hope he's kept it up, it gave me a smile and a memory.
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Use COMMON SENSE for Covid 19 - not LAWS!
by BoogerMan inso says former justice of the supreme court, lord sumption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86p7eejenkm.
he correctly calls the "lockdown" for what it is - house-imprisonment.
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BlackPuddingEater
It's just not kosher.
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Use COMMON SENSE for Covid 19 - not LAWS!
by BoogerMan inso says former justice of the supreme court, lord sumption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86p7eejenkm.
he correctly calls the "lockdown" for what it is - house-imprisonment.
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At some point more people will die because of continued lockdowns
Yes there will be deaths among the poor, the unfortunate, the stupid and the unfortunately stupid and poor but they were playing with a short deck anyway in a very shitty world. Maybe we should really try to do something about that when we have a chance to again?
Please remember that while putting the UK under this house with netflix arrest the government have also stepped in to pay 80% of wages for a quarter of the nations workforce. Lots of people will be looking for new jobs because lots of companies will be shutting down, like Yorkshire the 80's but with fewer donkey jackets. The benefit system is there to keep us afloat, it did for me when I needed it back then and will gladly pay my dues forward the next man. I am glad that make me a socialist because I believe in society. I'm off to listen to me Billy Bragg now.
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Another heart-worming story
by StephaneLaliberte intoday, i got an email from an old friend with a story told by brother andre ramseyer who attended training at patterson in england.
a service dog regularly attended the meetings with his owner.
when the owner passed away, the dog was given to another blind man.
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"is a dog able to tell apart the days of the week?"
I use to get on a train each morning and often shared a carriage with a blind passenger who had a guide dog. Every morning before we pulled into the station we both alighted onto, the dog would nudge his friend and they would get to the door just as the train was pulling in and get ahead of the crowd. I always though that the dog recognised the lamp posts and overhead wires at a certain point but one day when it was foggy the dog still nudged his friend and they got to the door just before it pulled in.
It has been suggested and studies have been done on the link between a dogs sense of smell and it's perception of time. So to a dog every day and every hour is distinguishable by smell. Research it, it is fascinating.
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Use COMMON SENSE for Covid 19 - not LAWS!
by BoogerMan inso says former justice of the supreme court, lord sumption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86p7eejenkm.
he correctly calls the "lockdown" for what it is - house-imprisonment.
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BlackPuddingEater
I listened to what Lord Sumption had to say and think that the interviewer had a better grasp of the situation. The former chief justice may of met a more inspirational sample than I have but I remember in late March when people were still going to beaches and to Snowdonia. Then the night before the shutdown when people still went out to the pubs? Even the man who did all the maths chose a bit of slap and tickle over personal responsibility.
Sweden has 24 people per km^2 and the UK has 259 per km^2.
Sweden has 2763 covidvirus cases per million and the UK has 3336.
There is also anecdotal evidence that the Swedish have a better base hygiene level.
This is the first pandemic we have had that we can properly monitor. Afterwards we will have a better understanding of which strategy it is best to apply to what situation. Saying that a government is unprepared for this unforseen disaster opens up the question how much time and money should of been spent preparing and what other unforseen disasters should get the same treatment?
It's nice to hear the establishment promoting self governance though, maybe we can apply our common sence to how much tax we pay?
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Dose age and the reasons for leaving affect the out come
by joe134cd infirstly for anyone leaving is don’t get involved in alcohol, drugs, parties, and sleeping around, because it will just come back and bite you in the arse.. i have a theory that those who leave the religion at an older age do better than those who leave at a younger age.
i think to that the reasons for leaving are quite different between the age groups.
i sometimes wonder if many of the under 30’s use the short comings of the religion, as an excuse to pursue the above mentioned life style.
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BlackPuddingEater
Glad to hear you are fit and well joe134cd. I disagree most strongly, and am doing fine thank you for asking. Left at 16, out of the family home by 17 and following the advice of Mr Ian Dury took liberal serving of sex and drugs and rock & roll. I have recently take up the NHS couch to 5 k challenge as I'm not getting up my 2 allotments (400 sq yards) so much under the current inconveniences, into week 3 now. Non drinker, non smoker of tobacco though a constant partaker of marijuana. Good job in engineering, above average wage, married over 20 years, 2 lovely kids. Just like you no regrets.
So what if my reasoning was mainly hormonal instead of spiritual? I think you are missing the point, in this case it is not the journey it is the destination. Admittedly there were some times where my naivety of the worldly world put me in vulnerable situations. My upgrade and reboot had a couple of false starts but if you keep your eyes on the prize and all that.
If I had not got out so young I would of missed life and it has been wonderful to see on the other side of the cage. So I don't have a relationship with my progenitorial family but when my girls were young they never sat for a single hour in a kingdom hall or knocked on any doors unless it was to call on a friend of there choosing.
I've paid prices, taken wrong decisions and been forced to survive on my good looks and stunning personality. That's not 'life after the JW's' thats just life!
I sometimes wonder if many of the under 30’s use the short comings of the religion, as an excuse to pursue the above mentioned life style.
Stop wondering, it's true! Many people use many excuses to be gettin jiggy with it, not just lapsed Jws but every glorious pan gendered, pot smoking rebel rousing worldly one of us. Nor is this a sign of our decadent modern ways, young people have been sexually curious and rebellious throughout time. Again not life after JW's, just life!
When a youngling post here it breaks my heart knowing that there is a life wasting. The reason that so many become a poster child is they are deliberately unprepared and unsupported.
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BlackPuddingEater
Down with this sort o' thing
