re tro view.
blondie, your p re views were better, but hey, try to figure it out, the gists.
"why to attend the memorial ?" , to see, witness the basis for judgement for not following instructions, perverting/preventing the life giving procedures.
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10Memorial wt study, re tro view.
by waton infor those still involved in the april 15 event, under the full evening moon.. "do this in memory of me " right, and follow the instructions.
3) "small number cherish a heavenly hope" but at the last supper, all still had an earthly hope, even jesus spoke in earthly terms about the future.
4) "spoke to them about 2 covenants, the new covenant and the kingdom covenant" a new one to me, note the missing capitalization for the new covenant, the one for all, for forgiveness of sins, the blood covenant, the wine symbolism, but implied [wrongly ] meaning of the kingdom rule promises.
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Memorial wt study, re tro view.
by waton infor those still involved in the april 15 event, under the full evening moon.. "do this in memory of me " right, and follow the instructions.
3) "small number cherish a heavenly hope" but at the last supper, all still had an earthly hope, even jesus spoke in earthly terms about the future.
4) "spoke to them about 2 covenants, the new covenant and the kingdom covenant" a new one to me, note the missing capitalization for the new covenant, the one for all, for forgiveness of sins, the blood covenant, the wine symbolism, but implied [wrongly ] meaning of the kingdom rule promises.
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for those still involved in the April 15 event, under the full evening moon.
"do this in memory of me " right, and follow the instructions.
3) "small number cherish a heavenly hope" but at the last supper, all still had an earthly hope, even jesus spoke in earthly terms about the future.
4) "spoke to them about 2 covenants, the new covenant and the Kingdom covenant" a new one to me, note the missing capitalization for the NEW Covenant, the one for all, for forgiveness of sins, The blood covenant, the wine symbolism, but implied [wrongly ] meaning of the Kingdom rule promises.
The kingdom covenant is not the one meant by "the blood of the covenant"
6) WT march 1938: "it will be right for the others to be present at such meeting".-- of course , since the last supper, there were always those that had an everlasting life hope, without wt graciously giving permission.
7) key text missing is : John 6: "Unless you drink of my blood and eat my flesh you will not have everlasting life"
Jesus at the last supper: "eat and drink, all of you"
11) Math 25, wt twisting Jesus' encouragement to do humanitarian work into "primarily supporting -- the "anointed's" preaching, [wt] disciple making work"
12) "global campaign to invite --- to the memorial" how is that doing this in memory? when he kept attendance to a minimum, dismissing unworthy Judas, when he had 500 brothers ready for later assembly? thousands that would come again for a free meal?
14) "the gift of the ransom" as also taught by all the churches. symbolized by their cross.
15) the real meaning is by hidden wt articles is: : by way of partaking, right to everlasting life is gained. The anointed among the partakers, renounce, sacrifice that right to aspire to the higher calling. -- as did Jesus.
16 ) "we want to obey Jesus" well wt, do it then, and follow instructions as per scripture. in summary:
This article hints at a new slant, bringing in the 2 covenants together, but still ignoring the pattern that The new covenant for forgiveness of sins applies to all [ of the 12 tribes], all Christian congregation members, that
the "blood of the covenant" is not the blood of the kingdom covenant, all should partake* to get everlasting life.
thankfully many do, hidden, in private, as did the 12 at the last supper.
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Subliminal POMO image at JW.org
by Smiles inpomo-c. physically-out-mentally-out... of cult .
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https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/update-4-brotherly-love-prevails-amid-ongoing-crisis-in-ukraine/.
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waton
even if WT is doing it as a PR stunt, the people involved are doing something good for others and only completely jaded people would not believe they care about the suffering.
. Nobody on this thread is berating the workers, their devotion. Like in many religions, and free helpers, people are working to do good. perhaps 10 million people are being helped, with joy, during this new episode of inhumanity. -by these many unsung heros-.
what is sickening about wt is, that everything has to be callously harnessed to their "organisation" propaganda maschine. such as the example of
the prophetic admonishing of Jesus to do humanitarian work, to care for the sick, the hungry, the persecuted , in Math. 25., --- that wt, incredibly ties, limits exclusively - to work in their endless "campaigns" .
how jaded callous can you get?
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Subliminal POMO image at JW.org
by Smiles inpomo-c. physically-out-mentally-out... of cult .
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https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/update-4-brotherly-love-prevails-amid-ongoing-crisis-in-ukraine/.
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waton
It's not an organization, it's just a Polish sign that says "humanitarian relief".
like post 4 points out, a polish cry for help, so
why does wt dare to post it it as they are organizing it? like unloading? just like
they are unloading all the wt burden onto their members?
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Subliminal POMO image at JW.org
by Smiles inpomo-c. physically-out-mentally-out... of cult .
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https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/update-4-brotherly-love-prevails-amid-ongoing-crisis-in-ukraine/.
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waton
3 possibilities: It is a
a) desperate message on a vehicle from a born in bethelite to be helped out of that place. "pomoc" help, or
b) bethel boys, , delivering much needed spiritual food, wt leaflets in those familiar, though odd sized brown cartons.
c) or wt workers distributing government supplies, as they do in some other disaster times, places, --kudos for that.
sorry, for finding mirth in the worst situations humans can be in, terrorized in freezing cold with no food.
have been there. compliment of warring parties since winters 1944 / 1945. 1948/1949 with one common player.
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Memorial invite
by JoenB75 innow they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.
it always makes me a bit sad.
i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.
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We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know. The Governing Body does not keep a list of all partakers,
pon, DOC. assuming that there is merit to the scriptures, The hope of the partakers that they are going to be ruling with Christ, does not depend even on the bodies governing now. or their hope.
one of the hidden facts is, that to rule for the 1000 years one has to die, be done in with the axe, not just live like a martyr (witness), but to die like one. Rev.20. The angels of Rev 7 are not publishing lists of sealed ones either. so,
never mind the wt invite, hopefully your secret personal performance is under a Clear Sky , the full moon to come.
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Memorial invite
by JoenB75 innow they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.
it always makes me a bit sad.
i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.
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waton
Old light! , Yes the 1935 is Old Light
FFG , DOC, I cited 1935, because at that time it as announced, that somehow this group of people did not partake of the emblems, surprisingly as if the "millions that will never die" of 1918, did not need the ransom to do so.
A "vox popoli, vox dei" moment in wt history.
thanks for introducing the newer light, that still makes the forced rejection of the ransom at the last evening meal the worst wt doctrinal error. and
imagine, 10s of thousands of "anointed " branded as closet unfaithful, because of the new influx. ha ha. you have to constantly remind wt adherents how wrong, untrue their beliefs were and are, through their doctrinal "tacking" in His Majesty's Ship. wt inc.
Nobody needs the ransom more than the prospective Armageddon survivors, they will never pay the price for sin personally by dying, so the wt story goes anyway.
all other sheep are prospective candidates to be sealed to go to heaven, as were the apostles nisan 14 at the time. , so
all should partake. simple, Occam's Razor at its best.
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Memorial invite
by JoenB75 innow they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.
it always makes me a bit sad.
i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.
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there is absolutely everything wrong with this, a given mandatory number of invitation leaflets delivered to every jw household door to "place" with the public.
Jesus invited only the closest associates, dismissed unworthy guest. --------wt wants to invite the whole world the more the merrier, like the mardi gras.
Jesus at the last supper had still the right to earthly life,
so did the apostles hope at the time, all were commanded and partook --------------wt wants nobody to partake. because
The calling closed in 1935 except for replacements for the unfaithful artakers since then.
Jesus said : "eat all of you" (with an earthly hope) --------------wt says " we dare you not to touch!
Jesus said unless you drink and eat, you will not have everlasting life ------------------wt says, you will earn life by obedience to us , slaving for a thousand years.
wt says, memorial will stop after the partakers are all gone, to heaven, at the beginning of the great tribulation.
how does that work out, with the ransom symbols eliminated, ( the ransom being the basis of the new covenant, for forgiveness of sins) ? btw not the kingdom covenant
partaking of the "blood of the new covenant" , that now give the "anointed" the right to earthly life, that they willingly sacrifice to go to heaven? how about those that want to keep that right and live on earth?
The great crowd of non partakers is counted to the last attendee, even in the washrooms. Rev 7 says nobody will be able to number them.
The wt "memorial is a farce, an anti christian comedy, as W. Pauli would have say, :
it is so bad, it is not even wrong.
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Mark Sanderson
by Iamallcool insince mark sanderson of the gb is never married, does he have his own room at warwick or have a roommate?
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Apparently Sanderson started partaking when he was 19 years old
H: well, for wt believers that means being part of the "bride", feelings that in a different way are powerful at the period in life.
He is cooperating with D. Splane, who, in that "timing chart" talk, in so many words said, that 2 centenarians overlapping by ~ 20 years like Frederik Frannz and now M. Sanderson,* would bring the overlap generation to 2075. 1914 + 2x (100-19) = ~2075.
* assuming that M.S. just as the example cited, was 19 in 19192, and lived past 100.
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I pioneered brothers parked their BMW and got aride in my 20 year old car?? No support.
by Witness 007 inso i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.
i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.
i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.
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waton
I got criticized for turning corners too fast
LHG: what was your reply? here is mine:
sorry friend, I have a phobia about slow turns from my pre- wt piloting days. Most people get killed in airplane crashes for stalling in a turn, buying the farm by spinning in. its fundamental. also
Br. waton, do you believe in the resurrection? me: "of course I do, its fundamental" then,
" Br. waton, please slow down, I like to avoid the resurrection as much as possible, just a hope after all.
back to marriage: at least, wt and other religions mandate that commitment, punish free fun as sin, so there is this very strong hormone driven home seeking ( banding a man to the house ) clause, that so strongly drives the marriage imperative. dont knock it.