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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

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  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  waton

  
  Sea Breeze16 hours ago

  should that not read "gehennah" the lake of fire?

  @waton,

  Probably, but what the hell.--"

  well, if that is the case, in a full equivalency of the "second Adam", including total annihilation in the second death,

  how could Jesus have been resurrected? and not Adam himself escaped Gehenna? If overriding the gehennah boundaries was possible for the Christ, why not for the other immature, befuddled, in love, erring first earthly son? after all, the tree of life was just begging to be used, no sacrifice or ransom needed. just a generous magnificent act, without legal wrangling.

  If Jesus did not die the same death as Adam, without possible redemption, how could the stake/Cross be a "corresponding ransom"?

  No wonder the " ransom sacrifice" as defined by wt does not yet detectably, will not work.
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  Jesus paid it ALL for YOU

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.

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  waton

  The problem was the procrastination of the perfect couple to copulate. The had the mandate! just conceived too late.

  2 of that perfect offspring surely would have made the passenger list of the ark too?
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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  waton

  Jesus paid hell for us.

  should that not read "gehennah" the lake of fire?

  Adam went to gehennah, Jesus, the second Adam, was never there.
  
  
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  Is Russia Bluffing?

  by Fisherman in

  1. social
  2. current

  “supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.

  “if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.

  what is russia implying?

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  waton

  NATO borders “smack up to those of Russia”

  well, where would you like the line drawn in the sand to be? The only way to stop an agressor is before he gets momentum, inside his own border. Let Russia build their own Westwall., east of the Brest Litovsk definition. (or january 1918).

  Napoleon's and Hitler's fate should be enough of a deterrent for the west to keep off ancient Russian soil.

  Is Vladimir bluffing? he will not be happy until her rules in Dresden and Berlin again

  Biden, Scholz, Macron will not trade New York, Frankfurt, Paris for Kiev in a nuclear exchange.
  
  
  
  
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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  waton

  death is an evolutionaty tool

  https://syndication.theguardian.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fscience%2F2023%2Fjan%2F21%2Fover-the-moon-buzz-aldrin-marries-long-time-love-on-his-93rd-birthday&type=article&internalpagecode=science%2F2023%2Fjan%2F21%2Fover-the-moon-buzz-aldrin-marries-long-time-love-on-his-93rd-birthday

  
  
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  Is Russia Bluffing?

  by Fisherman in

  1. social
  2. current

  “supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.

  “if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.

  what is russia implying?

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  waton

  trouble is, Russia has annexed the most fertile and industrially powerful region of the former pan-Ukraine ( may be some aircraft manufacturing excluded). Yielding it, would leave Ukraine a very less rich country. Re-conquering the occupied parts would result in a Stalingrad - type defensive battle put up by the Russians.

  Realpolitik would be to face reality. Let the Polar/grizzly matka bear have her prey, and settle down, if that is possible living next to a predator, with all its lice, never nice.

  Anomy Mouse must be thinking of the past, of Czechoslovakia ( where I was in 1931) that stretched east of Praha a long way.

  yeah, Russia would love to have Nato countries waste all their armament (Leopards) in the Ukraine theatre, then to be able to re-integrate all their former vassals states, this time expulsing and replacing all these populations like they did in Ostpreussen, now Kaliningrad.
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  Jesus paid it ALL for YOU

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.

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  waton

  Jesus, the "Carpenter from Galilee" or salvation through wood.

  Why did the deity not use the tree of life to heal the blunder of his children?

  He made up for it by saving them from his "water above everest" event, in a barge made of wood.

  Jesus was sustained by woodworking until he started his ministry, and

  the wood of the Execution/Salvation Event is iconic.

  to top it all, the trees of life for the healing of the nation in revelation.

  "would it not be loverly"
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  STOP criticizing the self-appointed Governing Body......

  by BoogerMan in

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  .....you imperfect shower!!!.

  w74 2/1 p. 96 questions from readers - “in the case of those who will rule with jesus christ, jehovah god...“declares them righteous” and thus views them as being perfect, without sin, while yet in the flesh on earth.” (rom.

  8:33) .

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  The deity viewing them through rose coloured glasses. Eigenlob stinkt.
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  Shameless Watchtower Study...How Strong Will Your Faith Be?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | november 2021. .

  16 note the example of geydi, a sister from guatemala.

  her husband, edi, was murdered as they were returning home from a congregation meeting.

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  waton

  The story, when seen by the public, is to bring males into the meetings. Where can we find these possibly well endowed widows, lookalikes of the Middleton sisters and Meghan Markle? Most central American widows look more like Merkle.
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  The history of JW CONSCIENCE put in perspective (Brothers sent to prison: misled?)

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  conscience and war.

  clash of certainties.

  in 1616, the catholic church was absolutely certain the words of the holy bible were true concerning the planet earth and its place in the universe; especially in regards to this scripture "...the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved.

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  waton

  interesting conclusion, I never connected the Superior position of the father and son with the de facto supremacy of the wt leadership, as it turned out between 1929 and the 60s reversal. and

  If your lot was terrible during the Vietnam war, think of the fate of bibel forschers during WW2.