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  New GB

  by XBEHERE in

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  gage fleegle.

  jeffrey winder.

  anyone know them?

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  waton

  They're almost certainly not of "this generation" via the over-lapping side hustle.

  Diogenesister, It is difficult to peer into the angels' action of Rev.7, where they "seal" or anoint the prospective GB members. Traditionally anointing happens at baptism,( Jesus, Cornelius) although most will not be inclined to also start partaking of communion then.

  All generations, however defined, anointed or wicked, run consecutively anyway. A partaker could become an anointed later , as were the original 11. On age alone they overlapped with the Frantzes of this world.

  The anointed generation is academic anyway. wt says they will pass away to heaven at the outset of the Great Tribulation, to fight as immortals at Armageddon.

  Jesus disagreed.preemptively,

  He said the generation would pass away after all these things have occurred, have happened, Armageddon included.

  The wt anointed generation of 1914 needs a re-generation. badly.
  
  
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  Is Russia Bluffing?

  by Fisherman in

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  “supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.

  “if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.

  what is russia implying?

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  waton

  Anony Mous, sadly as these small nations have learned, neutrality will expose them to the constant threat of yet another military action. Even with any settlement of the current invasion of the Ukraine, this sword of Damocles will keep hanging over the perimeter of the presently contained empire.

  Sad that the Russian people so long-suffering, of a rich and vast territory, are among the least prosperous of all Eurasia. They deserve a standard offered from Spain to Japan. The current adventurism, will set them back again from that noble goal.

  Biden, the democrat? if Trump had his way, America first would let "Russia be great again" too.

  Strange how it turns out, that right wingers that are supposed to favour a strong nation, could allow others, that strive for that, to be destroyed. (it is a Vernichtungskrieg again)

  where do you think the citizens of Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine identify with, or would rather end up, in the Dakotas, Saskatchewan or Siberia. ?

  No, Russia is not bluffing, they would lure invaders into the interior again and nuke them there.
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  Is Russia Bluffing?

  by Fisherman in

  1. social
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  “supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.

  “if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.

  what is russia implying?

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  waton

  Anony Mouse, perhaps you have never lived in the independent Soviet (Russian) republics stretching from Finland to Baku, or liberated by the Red Army.

  Russia is an imperial power, emperiling its neighbours. Trouble is for the Rubel , that these distinct nations may be small, but not pushovers like the areas colonized by England, France, Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany.

  Of course Russians are suffering because of this at the fringes of their empire, but the population deserves a continued break from millennia of expansionism, A break it got after the Gorby era.

  mir instead of more slav. please.

  PS: leave the cats, (leopards), at home. you might need them there, they burn like the Ts.
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  Elders are no longer teachers

  by eyeslice in

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  back in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.

  you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.

  then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.

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  waton

  dull as dishwater.

  currently cleaning the image of David, the wt poster boy, 4 bible books 1 Kings to 2nd Chronicles.

  actually a murderous, adulterous war criminal, responsible for the needless death of 10s of thousands. but publicly psycho analyzed by adoring "sisters" for his moving lyrics.

  Vidqun: good analogy for wt operations at the hands on level:

  "Flugtechnisches Handbuch." aka Elder manual. Coralling the flock. ha ha.
  
  
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  Elders are no longer teachers

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.

  you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.

  then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.

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  waton

  yeah, back then, during the big increase years, you could introduce a sense of humour into the talk or study,

  wt has stopped training public speakers. good discussions at the doors have degenerated to shoving, showing a JWOrg link into people faces. the same text for weeks on end repeated.

  No wonder no new "converts " are showing up at the halls.

  PS: at least on the blood issue, individuality is now mandated. ha ha.
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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  waton

  
  Sea Breeze16 hours ago

  should that not read "gehennah" the lake of fire?

  @waton,

  Probably, but what the hell.--"

  well, if that is the case, in a full equivalency of the "second Adam", including total annihilation in the second death,

  how could Jesus have been resurrected? and not Adam himself escaped Gehenna? If overriding the gehennah boundaries was possible for the Christ, why not for the other immature, befuddled, in love, erring first earthly son? after all, the tree of life was just begging to be used, no sacrifice or ransom needed. just a generous magnificent act, without legal wrangling.

  If Jesus did not die the same death as Adam, without possible redemption, how could the stake/Cross be a "corresponding ransom"?

  No wonder the " ransom sacrifice" as defined by wt does not yet detectably, will not work.
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  Jesus paid it ALL for YOU

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.

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  waton

  The problem was the procrastination of the perfect couple to copulate. The had the mandate! just conceived too late.

  2 of that perfect offspring surely would have made the passenger list of the ark too?
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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  waton

  Jesus paid hell for us.

  should that not read "gehennah" the lake of fire?

  Adam went to gehennah, Jesus, the second Adam, was never there.
  
  
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  Is Russia Bluffing?

  by Fisherman in

  1. social
  2. current

  “supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.

  “if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.

  what is russia implying?

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  waton

  NATO borders “smack up to those of Russia”

  well, where would you like the line drawn in the sand to be? The only way to stop an agressor is before he gets momentum, inside his own border. Let Russia build their own Westwall., east of the Brest Litovsk definition. (or january 1918).

  Napoleon's and Hitler's fate should be enough of a deterrent for the west to keep off ancient Russian soil.

  Is Vladimir bluffing? he will not be happy until her rules in Dresden and Berlin again

  Biden, Scholz, Macron will not trade New York, Frankfurt, Paris for Kiev in a nuclear exchange.
  
  
  
  
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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  waton

  death is an evolutionaty tool

  https://syndication.theguardian.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fscience%2F2023%2Fjan%2F21%2Fover-the-moon-buzz-aldrin-marries-long-time-love-on-his-93rd-birthday&type=article&internalpagecode=science%2F2023%2Fjan%2F21%2Fover-the-moon-buzz-aldrin-marries-long-time-love-on-his-93rd-birthday