Posts by waton

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Jesus Never Limited His Promies to 144K

by Sea Breeze in

what were we thinking?

mat_10:32 whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.. mat_10:33 but whosoever shall deny me before men, him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.. mat_12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.. mat_16:25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.. mat_18:4 whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.. mar_10:15 verily i say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of god as a little child, he shall not enter therein.. luk 6:47,48 whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, i will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man .

which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock.

waton

Why is the bible such an accurate time keeper? (look into it if you haven't, I mean actually look into it)
How did the universe begin?

blotty, the blot on that claim of timing accuracy is found in Gen 1:1

" In the beginning God made the Heavens and the Earth--"

false, Light from the beginning is 13 billion years old, near the Big Bang, The Sun / Earth only 4.5 billion. A lot of work had to be done after the first Energy Conversion to lead to our existence, but the bible is wrong, and that is only the start. Done by early science fiction writers.

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new publisher locally

by enoughisenough in

some zealous new person must have moved in to the old congregation recently.

i got letters today and a brochure.

the return address had a last name ( no name i knew in the congregation-and they for sure never heard of me!

waton

you have to see how service is done to do these letters. Sisters on zoom chatting about what sisters chat about , all the profound things happening in the circuit and beyond, while one of them, (preferred not baptized to make sure of the time count) cuts out figurines, flowers to be pasted on paper and hand addressed , then slowly mailed later. 10 minutes of this for every human on earth per year.

anything to get the food in the door. No mention of the groups in the overlapping anointed generation, 1914, 1925, 1975, 2000

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New GB

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

gage fleegle.

jeffrey winder.

anyone know them?

waton

They're almost certainly not of "this generation" via the over-lapping side hustle.

Diogenesister, It is difficult to peer into the angels' action of Rev.7, where they "seal" or anoint the prospective GB members. Traditionally anointing happens at baptism,( Jesus, Cornelius) although most will not be inclined to also start partaking of communion then.

All generations, however defined, anointed or wicked, run consecutively anyway. A partaker could become an anointed later , as were the original 11. On age alone they overlapped with the Frantzes of this world.

The anointed generation is academic anyway. wt says they will pass away to heaven at the outset of the Great Tribulation, to fight as immortals at Armageddon.

Jesus disagreed.preemptively,

He said the generation would pass away after all these things have occurred, have happened, Armageddon included.

The wt anointed generation of 1914 needs a re-generation. badly.

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Is Russia Bluffing?

by Fisherman in

“supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.

“if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.

what is russia implying?

waton

Anony Mous, sadly as these small nations have learned, neutrality will expose them to the constant threat of yet another military action. Even with any settlement of the current invasion of the Ukraine, this sword of Damocles will keep hanging over the perimeter of the presently contained empire.

Sad that the Russian people so long-suffering, of a rich and vast territory, are among the least prosperous of all Eurasia. They deserve a standard offered from Spain to Japan. The current adventurism, will set them back again from that noble goal.

Biden, the democrat? if Trump had his way, America first would let "Russia be great again" too.

Strange how it turns out, that right wingers that are supposed to favour a strong nation, could allow others, that strive for that, to be destroyed. (it is a Vernichtungskrieg again)

where do you think the citizens of Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine identify with, or would rather end up, in the Dakotas, Saskatchewan or Siberia. ?

No, Russia is not bluffing, they would lure invaders into the interior again and nuke them there.

39

Is Russia Bluffing?

by Fisherman in

“supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.

“if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.

what is russia implying?

waton

Anony Mouse, perhaps you have never lived in the independent Soviet (Russian) republics stretching from Finland to Baku, or liberated by the Red Army.

Russia is an imperial power, emperiling its neighbours. Trouble is for the Rubel , that these distinct nations may be small, but not pushovers like the areas colonized by England, France, Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany.

Of course Russians are suffering because of this at the fringes of their empire, but the population deserves a continued break from millennia of expansionism, A break it got after the Gorby era.

mir instead of more slav. please.

PS: leave the cats, (leopards), at home. you might need them there, they burn like the Ts.

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Elders are no longer teachers

by eyeslice in

jw
friends

back in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.

you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.

then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.

waton

dull as dishwater.

currently cleaning the image of David, the wt poster boy, 4 bible books 1 Kings to 2nd Chronicles.

actually a murderous, adulterous war criminal, responsible for the needless death of 10s of thousands. but publicly psycho analyzed by adoring "sisters" for his moving lyrics.

Vidqun: good analogy for wt operations at the hands on level:

"Flugtechnisches Handbuch." aka Elder manual. Coralling the flock. ha ha.

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Elders are no longer teachers

by eyeslice in

jw
friends

back in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.

you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.

then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.

waton

yeah, back then, during the big increase years, you could introduce a sense of humour into the talk or study,

wt has stopped training public speakers. good discussions at the doors have degenerated to shoving, showing a JWOrg link into people faces. the same text for weeks on end repeated.

No wonder no new "converts " are showing up at the halls.

PS: at least on the blood issue, individuality is now mandated. ha ha.

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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

waton

Sea Breeze16 hours ago

should that not read "gehennah" the lake of fire?

@waton,

Probably, but what the hell.--"

well, if that is the case, in a full equivalency of the "second Adam", including total annihilation in the second death,

how could Jesus have been resurrected? and not Adam himself escaped Gehenna? If overriding the gehennah boundaries was possible for the Christ, why not for the other immature, befuddled, in love, erring first earthly son? after all, the tree of life was just begging to be used, no sacrifice or ransom needed. just a generous magnificent act, without legal wrangling.

If Jesus did not die the same death as Adam, without possible redemption, how could the stake/Cross be a "corresponding ransom"?

No wonder the " ransom sacrifice" as defined by wt does not yet detectably, will not work.

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Jesus paid it ALL for YOU

by JW Answers in

sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.

waton

The problem was the procrastination of the perfect couple to copulate. The had the mandate! just conceived too late.

2 of that perfect offspring surely would have made the passenger list of the ark too?

58

Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

waton

Jesus paid hell for us.

should that not read "gehennah" the lake of fire?

Adam went to gehennah, Jesus, the second Adam, was never there.