Posts by waton

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Paul did not belittle women

by Doug Mason in

i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.

the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.

he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.

waton

Saename. I see the traditional family, as a protective unit to keep the flame of life glowing, the great ladies mastering the internal warmth, and the men dealing with the challenges at the periphery, protection, furnishing food, dealing in the tactics, the strategies. Bearing children is such a tremendous, fulfilling task, that it should satisfy any aspirations. imho, bsw,

I do not feel that women are not equal to men, to the contrary, they have the superior position in life, more important to our arrival, survival, the beauty charm and warmth. why any lady would feel like a failed man, is not understandable to me.

You are responsible for our arrival. why do you need to be our rival?

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Why the resurrection must be true

by slimboyfat in

okay i was thinking about it.

and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.

but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.

waton

assumption 3.

The universe, any physical existence, is only present at any given time at that moment, on a knife edge so to speak , during it's relentless movement through time. . the knowledge, artifacts is what is carried into the future, the past existence is gone, although it leaves fossils, even the images that could be reconstructed from messages that leave earth now, the light, are only fossils. There is no reality stacked up, back to the beginning of / or in the past.

all we see is images of the past. Imagine you could have a mirror put, always at a quarter your age in light years, and beam, reflect back your doings. You could watch yourself at half your age. but you would be only only watching your fossil.

If our existence is the outworkings of laws, it would take an extraordinary, supernatural working to recreate any of it. even your brain-activity, if it could filtered out from all the electromagnetic stream that is travelling into the future.

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Paul did not belittle women

by Doug Mason in

i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.

the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.

he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.

waton

origins aside, these are the texts that WT is working with. To my mind they are not putting women down, but help ladies to focus on activities that have served the human race well to evolve until now. Is the role of humans changing? There is an interesting science story on "why orcas have menopause" so it is not a put down, it is a put up, to their real task. imho.

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Paul did not belittle women

by Doug Mason in

i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.

the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.

he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.

waton

was 1Cor. 14: 33-38 written by "Paul" ?

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I am a Living Time Machine

by TerryWalstrom in

jw
friends

which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

everywhere you found telephone booths!

a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

waton

I am nearly 2 decades older, having stored memory since then, and nobody is really interested, and why should they? Young people have to look into the future direction to shape it. A badly shaped future will kill us all. So, I, will leave a few fossils, where I made a mark, nothing remarkable likely to be done by me in the possible decade ahead of us. I am really glad to have offspring though, already past the 2nd overlap, into the laptop generation.

A (hopefully original) thought for the day:

What is essential to have an overlapping generation? the lap, without the action there, there is no generation. period. ( and not without period either).

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God wants to remain unidentified

by anointed1 in

1) books supposedly written by god contain errors.

2) people supposedly appointed by god make human rights violations.

and god does not prevent those things from happening.

waton

a1: "I take only what is beneficial, and I do not know why such carnivorous being exists

Without carnivores, we would have no flowers today. Carnivores keep the vegetarian flower eaters in check. check and balances.

you truly are A-I, top of some of the other anointed.

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Has the threat of being shunned caused the organization to be unclean

by poopie in

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friends

i keep hearing stories of rank and file publishers involved in gross wrongdoing but because they fear of the possibility of being shunned they only tell those who will not report them to elders .

and they continue to go out on service and conduct bible studies and stay in good standing with cong even going to many social gatherings..

waton

Even David, the wt's darling, hat to be confronted with the facts for him to admit the hiding and murderous cover-up of his Bathsheba / Uriah deed. Elders too, if they can fake innocence, and hide it for a couple of years, are spared the loving shunning discipline.

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

waton

If these lawyers had so many cases , they would not need to advertise to find them, to ferret them out. Gold is not a commonly occurring element bb. The existence of these ads might be an indication of the dearth, rather than the abundance of rape cases.

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Winnesses of ME (Jesus)...Acts 1:8...NOT Winnesses of Jehovah

by NikL in

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friends

so jesus said in acts 1:8 .... you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you,+ and you will be witnesses+ of me in jerusalem,+ in all ju·deʹa and sa·marʹi·a,+ and to the most distant part* of the earth.. .

witnesses of jesus and not jehovah.

so i was a witness for years.

waton

In verse 7, he also told them to stay away from time-related predictions, speculation, prophecy. "it is not given to you to understand time, that the father has put in his own jurisdiction", so:

preach about Jesus, if you must, but:

leave time alone, it is the latter day forbidden fruit. the father has put time in his own jurisdiction. Even Einstein struggled with it, and on and on.

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

waton

when the ambulance chasers advertise with: "are you a JW that raped a child? " I would be really worried about the numbers, because there is good money to be made in defense too.