any takers?.
It might be shorter looking at the starting and finish times, but as a sales training and indoctrination session, it is longer, dragging on and on and on.
For those with no social life, the separate book study was better, an enforced shower and dress-up, closer personal contact and deeper discussions, delicious goodies, beverages at the end.
noas a current or past jehovah's witness, do you / or did you feel part of a spiritual paradise with full liberty in christ as the watchtower society/organisation describes?.
or do you / did you feel you were wearing a proverbial straitjacket in the sense you feel / felt restricted and controlled by the watchtower society / organisation?.
My early years in wt, the 1950s were not filled with a seeking or living in a spiritual paradise but living out a war-like campaign against the anti-life forces at work on this planet, as a special pioneer not even "planting and watering" but plowing a then hostile field.
The shock came when the controlling nature of wt became apparent in the new congregations emerging out of the work we did. Not that it was difficult to fall in line after having experienced Nazi and Commi herding.
There is among some of the lowest ranking naive JWs the glow of the ideal Christianity, but wt methods totally squelch that. There is no spiritual paradise in wt land, it is a bunch of stunted clones producing the seedless fruit of more wt herders and salesmen / women.
Bible writer had some insight when they encouraged the approved sheep to look after the "least of my brothers" and not the brass.
I'm not sure what the reason the WT$ set it up like this. Is this happening in other regions? paladin:
Among the reasons might be:
1) making a bigger show, jw crowds with lapel cards walking in crowded cities like Vancouver . publicity, advertise, advertise.
2) in the disenfranchised assembly cities, sending a message to local elders, who are the stars of the yearly boost fest, that they are dispensable . (that is why that these are lukewarm , if not also unsympathetic to plight of the many marginalized elderly, families, that do not want to waste the energy, the thousands of $$ for what will turn out to be nothing more than a linked video event. The R &F already fell used as mere props. extras.
3) keep churning among the jws at a maximum, to prevent time for thoughtful reflection.
Not to say that the 1958 conventions were not notable events, but this is 60 years of unfulfilled promises later.
awake!
1 2017 says on its back page.
the saharan silver ant (cataglyphis bombycina) is one of the most heat-tolerant land animals known.
wonder what exactly it was like before the naked lady ate the apple. Cofty:
Adam was hiding from the lions, because these vegetarians would find his carrot- like appendage appealing, ready to pounce. This lasted until the flood, fast evolution (your forte) only started after ~2700 BC. Then lions made such mistakes not any more,
t's a good thing God designed cheetahs who could run 70 mph. Sometimes that vegetation really moves! sir82
Yeah, try catching a fast tumbleweed.
steve2 you underestimate the speed of evolution, that switch to predation only happened after the flood, when snakes had stopped talking. Even bacteria and viruses must vegetarian then, how else could Methuselah dodge them for 969 years?
It use to be stand firm, relax and see the salvation, now it is the Roger Bannister look alikes?
It was easy not to give up in 1919, the race had a finish line 6 years away, 1925. It is impossible to stop in a sprint like that, with the momentum.
Those that did not give up after that ( there were no winners) only losers, then ahead were vague wt distance markers, 1941? but then
in the 1960s, , another ~ 7 year sprint to 1975 , again the wt finish line evaporating, contest hope wasted, only losers again, now we live with
overlapping anointed centenarians (like F Franz) in a relay race that has a tentative finish line in 2072,** but for the Herd of Other Sheep longer, perhaps 2075.
** ( the anointed generation will end before the end) .
This is historic : for the first time a wt race is under way, where all the participants will either be dead or of retirement age. breathtaking. reporting not endorsing. QoB.
round two of the australian royal commission into institutional child abuse has all the makings of a very damaging event for the organization, if what is going to happen to the catholic church is any indication.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-03/royal-commission-most-catholic-archbishops-to-give-evidence/8240208.
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re Zappa-esque link. The RC Church admits to 1 in 7 Priests to be involved in abusing underage boys and girls, no doubt with multiple victims. in multiple assignments, and that does not include the possible comparable laity situation
Fixing the wt 2 witness rule, non-reporting should be a cakewalk compared to the RC problem,
i grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.
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i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..
I was shocked to hear, that in this neck of the woods, the take is about $ 100.- per attendee per month. Counting out conscientious objectors like us, and the minors, that takes some serious sustaining. ( that January figure might include last minute year-end contributions for tax purposes)
just saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
We're all immigrants, doubtfully yours, --yes but illegal immigrants, ? or using the refugee claim to jump the legal lineup? ( if you can safely get on a commercial plane, you are already out of danger) or?
everyone here has read mt.
25 and knows the illustration of the virgins with the lamps.
i have mentioned this illustration in conversation with several dubbies, to draw attention to their foolishness in following watchtower's false reasoning.. in the illustration, there are two kinds of virgins, or people.
WT illustrations miss the point of progressive revelation, Rev 14.. these are MALE virgins. and of course they need much less oil than the "observers" the Other Sheep, because the anointed will join the future groom long before the end, that the sheep have to put up with.
--Joining the groom actively in the pre-nuptial bloodbath of Armageddon. nice persons.
i was recently at a sunday watchtower, reading one of the novels i have on my ipad to help me get through the dreadfully boring event.
every once in awhile though i'll glance at the article just in case anyone is peeking at my screen, and in the article, i noticed these paragraphs.. 3. how did exile in babylon differ from the slavery the israelites had experienced in egypt?.
3 what the prophets had foretold came to pass.
, It is an old-odd story. Take Cain. offering approved food, grown with difficulty in cursed ground, and he gets rejected, whereas Abel. offering soon to stink stinking garbage, carrion, that neither dog nor man could eat, and he gets blessed.
No good deed will go unpunished. just reporting, not supporting. QoB.
