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  Incredible document on the Watchtower and cognitive dissonance

  by sabastious in

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  2. beliefs

  i recieved an awesome document in my youtube messages yesterday.

  the person giving it told me it was the best description of the experience he had went through which involved entering and exiting the watchtower over the course of only a few years.. .

  written by jamie boyden [<--not sabastious] sunday, 08 february 2009 14:19. .

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  waton

  A recommended read. Slight correction on 1975:

  The numbers did not climb after 1975, but started to decline one year after. It apparently took a few month to sink in, that this was a total failure, and not a miscalculation by a few weeks, or something that should be glossed over,. -- or strengthen the faith.??

  Possibly many, included us, were in total denial, stubbornly not admitting to ourselves, and to others that we had been had, and kept going.- sort of.

  Will the next generation act like that too, when the overlapping generation peters out, past 2075 ?
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  waton

  "--there were concentration camps in Poland,--" never a jw:

  that is how these stories are slanted. There were no polish concentration camps! until 1945.

  terrible as these abuse stories are, they are not what makes the wt uniquely abhorrent.
  
  
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  Book study this week...more trumpeting over the organzations greatness

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you know, there are some studies that are painful to sit through because of the blatant lies or bull shite spewing from the platform.

  then there are those that seem to have no reason for even taking place.. such was the case for last nights congregation bible study.. all it did was talk about how many books and magazines have been published over the years and "aren't we wonderful that we print so much stuff"?

  this is a study into important biblical things?

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  waton

  "Self praise, is NO praise!" siar2: it is even better in german:

  Eigenlob stinkt. self praise stinks. Freundeslob hinkt, a friend's praise is lame, flawed. but

  They are brainwashing the members through these memory exercises:

  Repeat "we are great, Jesus did it, since 1914." repeat:
  
  
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  Book study this week...more trumpeting over the organzations greatness

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you know, there are some studies that are painful to sit through because of the blatant lies or bull shite spewing from the platform.

  then there are those that seem to have no reason for even taking place.. such was the case for last nights congregation bible study.. all it did was talk about how many books and magazines have been published over the years and "aren't we wonderful that we print so much stuff"?

  this is a study into important biblical things?

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  waton

  All these trees wasted on information that has now been repudiated. proven wrong.
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  Finding Peace in Older Age

  by compound complex in

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  2. friends

  a cool sense of tranquility overtakes my troubled spirit.. i emerge slowly from a deeply entrenched, lifelong nightmare and proceed into gentle reverie, into quiet wakefulness.

  youthful ideals, embodied in vaporous form before me, are a black reminiscence, threatening to return as an untold want having neither name nor substance, only a niggling dig that skewers my soul.. i shut it out, shut out all the noise in the head: irrational thought, excessive thinking that leads to depression, to insanity.

  yet, i am hopeful that devils of the past are blocked approach to me by a portcullis that guards both heart and mind.. i see but darkly my amorphous reflection and sense it is a phantom, not the real me.

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  CC, my words can not soar to your heights of expression.

  What gives me comfort is, that hopefully, when the day comes, I will not be fighting for my life, but feel it as a deserved stop, rest. I am in the last 10% of my life run, and the picture of a spiraling descent would be alarming to me, spins always end catastrophically, and I hope for the more common smooth landing, out of fuel, out of heights, or, not use my flying days' analogy, but surfing experience. --riding the last wave right onto the beach, as the sun sets.
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  BOE: Singers for recordings in German - bethel email address uncovered

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week a new letter for the boe in germany was published online.

  i want to share it with you (poor translation by google, sorry for that):.

  to all service comitees of german speaking congregations.

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  waton

  German jazz in Dirndl and Lederhosen.?

  a few of the melodies could come off quite nice, if you can ignore the lyrics, Even Pavarotti, can hardly be understood.

  serve them sekt, ot selter.
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  Finding Peace in Older Age

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a cool sense of tranquility overtakes my troubled spirit.. i emerge slowly from a deeply entrenched, lifelong nightmare and proceed into gentle reverie, into quiet wakefulness.

  youthful ideals, embodied in vaporous form before me, are a black reminiscence, threatening to return as an untold want having neither name nor substance, only a niggling dig that skewers my soul.. i shut it out, shut out all the noise in the head: irrational thought, excessive thinking that leads to depression, to insanity.

  yet, i am hopeful that devils of the past are blocked approach to me by a portcullis that guards both heart and mind.. i see but darkly my amorphous reflection and sense it is a phantom, not the real me.

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  waton

  spiraling descent?, it is more like a rollercoaster, it has it's ups too.
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  Finding Peace in Older Age

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a cool sense of tranquility overtakes my troubled spirit.. i emerge slowly from a deeply entrenched, lifelong nightmare and proceed into gentle reverie, into quiet wakefulness.

  youthful ideals, embodied in vaporous form before me, are a black reminiscence, threatening to return as an untold want having neither name nor substance, only a niggling dig that skewers my soul.. i shut it out, shut out all the noise in the head: irrational thought, excessive thinking that leads to depression, to insanity.

  yet, i am hopeful that devils of the past are blocked approach to me by a portcullis that guards both heart and mind.. i see but darkly my amorphous reflection and sense it is a phantom, not the real me.

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  waton

  No wordy response would dp justice
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  Infinity versus nothing

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  some people like to believe in something others believe in nothing; so in what location did the substance that expanded into the time/space universe exist before the big bang?

  where did the energy that caused the big band come from?

  how did the substance that became the big bang change from being inert and sterile and come to life to having the properties and drive that it does?

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  waton

  Anyone who believes that light can behave like a wave or particle depending on the experiment may as well accept the Trinity.

  an apt visualization of the wave-particle duality of light is in ocean waves. They are a rotary local movement traveling through the Ocean, but become forward hitting matter on the beach, and can kill you once the energy is released in the form of forward, downward motion, the bore.
  
  
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  Infinity versus nothing

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people like to believe in something others believe in nothing; so in what location did the substance that expanded into the time/space universe exist before the big bang?

  where did the energy that caused the big band come from?

  how did the substance that became the big bang change from being inert and sterile and come to life to having the properties and drive that it does?

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  it is believed that photons, and some sub-atomic particles (not being 3 dimensional) do not occupy space) Fisherman

  photons in a vacuum also do not occupy time, but time does not disappear because of that.

  photons, in movement, exist in two space dimensions, but space has not disappeared because of that, so: at least time might be fundamental and some kind of ur space.

  Positive and negative energy might balance to zero in an equation or on [a] balance, but that does not mean zero, but 2 energies. The same with matter, vs. antimatter, not zero matter, but 2 matters. (or a lot of energy if the equation is solved)

  Infinity is just that, going from negative infinity through zero to positive infinity still gives you only infinity,

  Gravity, a result of matter via Higgs, slows down, even halts movement through time, but that does not make time disappear, because it exists regardless of that distinct gravity field. so:

  with both time and energy, ur dimensions possibly fundamental, the conditions are set for pre-big bang scenarios, beyond our ken, imho.