i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.
even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.
this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.
why bother with the outdated printed material?
"Literature" for the apathy carts. And also to give the old-time JWs who don't know how to "preach" without a Watchtower in their hands something to hold onto.
That is, of course, whenever apathy-cart witnessing and door-to-door start up again.
i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.
even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.
this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.
Even though most "literature" is now produced online, there was still a lot of actual paper printing going on, especially tracts for door-to-door as well as magazines to populate the apathy carts.
What with the pandemic, not only has door to door been 100% stopped dead in its tracks, but also all those 10's or 100's of thousands of carts are just gathering dust in storerooms. No need to print millions of tracts & magazines every month, and no clear idea of when it will resume.
I imagine that makes many thousands of Bethelites (worldwide) redundant.
Now is a fine time, from a corporate business perspective, to send those thousands of Bethelites packing. Along with a hearty handshake and a cheerful "Keep warm and well-fed! Hope you find a job in the pandemic!" as they walk out the door.
If / when printing operations start up again, they'll just put out a call for more (new) volunteers. There is, alas, no shortage of poorly educated 19-year-olds who would pierce their eyeballs with finishing nails if it meant the opportunity to "serve at Bethel".
anthony morris iii on the 12/20 broadcast:.
parents need to give their children a realistic idea of what we will face in the near future.. .
.many parents choose to help their children appreciate the graphic visual imagery of a bible-based account while at the same time building trust in jehovah.
How many hundreds or thousands of messages from "concerned parents" must have been received by Bethel for them to feel forced to defend their decisions on depicting violence and death?
Of course, the real problem is all those parents realizing a moment of cognitive dissonance.
Per official JW doctrine, Jehovah (well, actually, I guess, Gentle Jesus and his charging cavalry) are going to violently slaughter billions of men, women and children one day, including 10s of millions of infants who will "never know what hit them". There will be blood on the streets and gore on the sidewalks. Imagine the smell. And then imagine the smell after 3-4 days.
That image is quite a contrast to the drawings of gentle lions and picnic tables overflowing with fruit, fruit, fruit, wonderful fruit, surrounded by colorful exotic humans in their "native" garb.
And good ol' Tony. He seemed to be making an effort, but even so, his sneering contempt for people who fail to worship the ground he walks on still came through. "These are realistic depictions" he snarled.
he was the secretary before he resigned years ago.
he has a business that kept him involved with the kingdom hall.
the hall was sold to another church.
Hmm, yeah, I guess maybe I could see it if they were old records, stuff that probably could have been tossed but they held onto it due to laziness or fear that they might need it someday.
Still, you'd think that somebody would think to go into the KH to retrieve the records before turning the keys over.
My bad, I assumed the elders would have a responsible or rational course of action.
the breaking news in canada today is the rollout of the pfizer/biontech vaccines.
perhaps we can put this pandemic nightmare to bed soon.. i hate to rain on the parade, but we yet are not clear of any allergic reactions, side effects there might be as they roll out.
but, just have to wait and see...to state the obvious.
But these “worldly” scientists, doctors etc, are all leading immoral lives, after work hours all manner of drug fueled orgies are they involved in, and you know God hates drug fueled orgies.
Oh, and that's also why virtually all scientists "choose to believe in" the theory of evolution.
If they did not, then they would realize they are then accountable to God, and thus would no longer have the freedom to engage in drug-fueled orgies.
I heard this from a "very spiritual" JW who often said "very deep" things like this.
he was the secretary before he resigned years ago.
he has a business that kept him involved with the kingdom hall.
the hall was sold to another church.
That makes zero sense. Why would the congregation not take their own congregation files when they moved to a new Kingdom Hall?
today there is a lot of hope placed in a vaccines to immunise against covid 19 , and relief that they are soon to be available.
that will be shared by the eight million or so jws in this world.
they should be thankful that the wts has moved away from its teaching ,that lasted for decades , proclaiming that vaccination was wrong, and a tool of satan.
Too much time has passed by now, but when I was a younger man, you'd still occasionally run into a Rutherford-era old-timer JW who was still absolutely dead-set against vaccinations (and aluminum cookware and the pretty much the entire medical profession in general) and who would let you know in no uncertain terms that you ought to agree with him.
in talking to jw's, it is apparent that they believe they are the only ones who believe in a paradise earth.
in reality most bible-believing christians believe in a paradise earth, they just don't call it that, they call it the millennium reign.
i created the chart below in an attempt to highlight areas of agreement between christians and a watchtower view, while at the same time isolating the key difference - the rejection of the new covenant.
Reminds me of those charts from the "Divine Plan of the Ages".
Sounds like a concession speech, Min
Its hard to understand the blinding desperate need to win that is driving all this.
Not really:
1) It's an enormously effective fund-raising grifting tool. I think the latest figure I've seen is Team Trump has raised $170 million+ just since the election to "fight corruption".
Trump is of course leveraged to the hilt and nowhere near as wealthy as he projects himself to be, and has hundreds of millions in debt coming due fairly soon that he will be unable to pay. I strongly suspect some of the folks who will want their money are of the sort that don't turn to "Acme Collection Agency" from the Yellow Pages, who are of the sort that have their own decidedly less pleasant version of a "collection agency".
2) Trump is terrified of the looming prosecutions in his future, particularly state-level charges that cannot be self-pardoned away.
Once outside of the norm of "you can't prosecute a sitting president for anything", Trump will basically spend the rest of his life in one court case after another. Or a penitentiary. Or both.
3) There's the whole NPD thing, but that doesn't seem to fly on this site. But I'll just mention it for completeness.
