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  Ban on Independent Meetings

  by lssjr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  source - march 2021 announcements - - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5085868283920384/2021-march-147-english-german-announcements-reminders.

  this is a sobering reminder of what happened some 40 years ago when raymond franz and others were literally kicked out from the jehovah's witnesses for having pre-arranged private spiritual discussions.lesson: paragraph 7 is another example of the i and t in dr. steven hassan's bite model of the 21st century cult - information and thought control at its best!!!!

  "my gosh, there must be a lot of independent meetings these days.

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  Not surprising since the JWS is controlled brainwashing

  Reading the bible alone by itself is admonished in the JWS cult.
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  An exchange with a JW about the blood doctrine.

  by Giles Gray in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently had an online exchange with an active jw about the blood issue.

  he originally wanted to talk about the potential dangers of transfusions but i pointed out that the risks of transfusions have nothing whatsoever to do with the reason that jws reject blood, and therefore i didn’t see any value in debating that topic.. not able to let it go, he then insisted that the blood mandate was a common theme throughout the bible, quoting acts 15:29.. it’s been a while since i looked into the subject, and i admit i’m now a little rusty when it comes to recalling where to find biblical quotes, but i remembered that there are passages in both the new and old testaments that, when read in the context of the time they were written, call into question the watchtower’s rendition of acts 15:29.. i offered to do some bible research and get back to the jw, suggesting that rather than letting our discussion become combative, we could have an informative and interesting exchange of ideas.

  i reassured him that i was not looking to undermine his convictions, in fact i was more than happy to be corrected if my thinking was wrong.

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  There is a reason why the most strict Orthodox Jews bled animals with established Kosher blood letting procedures before meat from a animal is to be eaten, but they have no qualms or problem with receiving a medically approved blood transfusion.
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  My old congregation still have nothing to show for all their efforts.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the year 2000, our congregation decided to split into three separate congregations because of growth.

  there were 186 members.

  the kingdom hall had only 190 seats.

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  truth_b_known
  
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  My old congregation still have nothing to show for all their efforts.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the year 2000, our congregation decided to split into three separate congregations because of growth.

  there were 186 members.

  the kingdom hall had only 190 seats.

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  Rocketman123

  The honest truth to the WTS/JWS is that this organization was created and developed to procure money right back from its the early beginning of J Rutherford who lived a lavish lifestyle from the money left in the Watchtower Corporation by C T Russell.

  There has been a exponential amount of bullshit , lying, exploitation, manipulation and corruption to achieve this endeavor by the top orchestrators of the WTS/JWS.

  The lying and deceiving will continue on from that pressing agenda by the top executive directors of the WTS./Jworg. and the men who will eventuality take their positional place.
  
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  My old congregation still have nothing to show for all their efforts.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the year 2000, our congregation decided to split into three separate congregations because of growth.

  there were 186 members.

  the kingdom hall had only 190 seats.

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  Is this sounding mafia-esque to anyone other than me?

  Sounds like a bunch of twisted bullshit (Double Speak) to keep drafting money out of people's hands.

  ......but then again the WTS has been twisting up bullshit since it started as a religoius publishing house some 140 years ago.
  
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  My old congregation still have nothing to show for all their efforts.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the year 2000, our congregation decided to split into three separate congregations because of growth.

  there were 186 members.

  the kingdom hall had only 190 seats.

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  Didn't the WTS forgive loans that congregations acquired for renovation purposes ?

  There is no question to the occurrence that loans taken for renovation purposes were paid back slowly to the WTS HQ in the past or at one time.

  It was an advantage either way for these renovation projects in that it helped to increase the real estate value to these buildings and properties for when they did get sold the money went right back to the WTS $$$

  A win win for the WTS
  
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  An exchange with a JW about the blood doctrine.

  by Giles Gray in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently had an online exchange with an active jw about the blood issue.

  he originally wanted to talk about the potential dangers of transfusions but i pointed out that the risks of transfusions have nothing whatsoever to do with the reason that jws reject blood, and therefore i didn’t see any value in debating that topic.. not able to let it go, he then insisted that the blood mandate was a common theme throughout the bible, quoting acts 15:29.. it’s been a while since i looked into the subject, and i admit i’m now a little rusty when it comes to recalling where to find biblical quotes, but i remembered that there are passages in both the new and old testaments that, when read in the context of the time they were written, call into question the watchtower’s rendition of acts 15:29.. i offered to do some bible research and get back to the jw, suggesting that rather than letting our discussion become combative, we could have an informative and interesting exchange of ideas.

  i reassured him that i was not looking to undermine his convictions, in fact i was more than happy to be corrected if my thinking was wrong.

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  blood is only a symbol for life when the source of the blood has been killed

  Good point Bobcat
  

  In the transference of blood from one human to another in a medical blood transfusion procedure, the giver of the blood is not dead or had died so the symbolic sacredness of the blood is kept intact.

  A perspective to the matter that the WTS heads never probably considered.

  Realistically the No Blood doctrine was devised out of personal opinion that should have never have been constituted as a you must do this or you will be disfellowshiped as a JWS
  
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Wrong Regarding Staying Out of Politics?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we were told we were part of the world if we got involved in politics.

  if we had employment that had political involvement we were instructed to get another job.

  we were told we might be considered disassociated if we voted and then it became questionable.

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  Rocket man we are supposed to be like Jesus

  and be imperfect in an imperfect world until he returns.

  Christianity was brought forward to humanity by a Roman government official.
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Wrong Regarding Staying Out of Politics?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we were told we were part of the world if we got involved in politics.

  if we had employment that had political involvement we were instructed to get another job.

  we were told we might be considered disassociated if we voted and then it became questionable.

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  There is no instruction or warning of participating within governments in the bible.

  Jesus said " He " is not part of this world, but didn't say his followers couldn't or shouldn't.
  
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  Should I continue to help an "unbelieving" husband?

  by RiverPeace in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know there are a lot of 'wise heads' out there on this forum - so i would appreciate your suggestions.. several years ago, i studied with a guy, whose wife is a jw.

  (he had studied with several elders before i came along).

  the study went reasonably well.

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  Tactfully compare WT false doctrine - using only the Bible?

  Yes if he receives that information willingly and honestly, there is no better way to convince a person that the WTS's doctrines are false by using the bible.

  The Achilles heel of the JWS is the bible and the truth mixed with some intellectual honesty..