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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

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  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  Here is the video of the entire police take down via one cop's body cam.

  Warning its kind of disturbing .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQYMBALDXc
  
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  Just rewatched the police body cam video of the take down and I would say Chauvin was wasn't taking due care of the situation especially when it was known that Floyd had passed out.

  He didn't let up and take any motion for recovery but then again all the cops there didn't make much of a attempt to check on the health of Floyd.

  Why would you need to hold person down like that when its obvious the person has fainted or maybe even gone into cardiac arrest ?

  You can tell also in the video that Floyd was high, even one cop made that notice.
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  Agree with you there Minimus
  

  .....and I still hold that whole affair had nothing to do with race

  The media took a substantial role in flaming up its a race issue.

  The media still today calls the event the murder of George Floyd.

  Like white cops murder a defenseless black man on the street .
  

  What happened to Floyd was a really concurrent amount of events with mitigating circumstances, where Floyd himself was greatly to blame toward the ending outcome.
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  The distraction from the shouting pedestrians toward the police officers I think effected how things overall panned out.

  I think Chauvin became emotionally resistant to taking his knee off of Floyd by all the shouting and suggestions by those people shouting at him..

  Kind of like " I'm the police officer here, you dont tell me what to do or how to do my job. "

  Anger and frustration can build up in situations like this even for cops while on duty.

  The video of Chauvin with his knee still on Floyd's neck even though the pedestrians could see Floyd was out cold, is a indication that Chauvin wasn't completely aware of what was going on.
  
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  Joey, from your knowledge and experience is it possible to put enough pressure on a person's neck while they are laying on the ground with a knee and body weight to make a person black out ?
  
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  This is a partial snip-it off G Floyd's autopsy report, notice the amount of Fentanyl found ...

  George Floyd 20-3700 Page 2 III.No life-threatening injuries identified A.No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae B.No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures C.No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries D.No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries E.Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma IV.Viral testing (Minnesota Department of Health, postmortem nasal swab collected 5/26/2020): positive for 2019-nCoV RNA by PCR (see ‘Comments,’ below) V.Hemoglobin S quantitation (postmortem femoral blood, HHC Laboratory): 38% (see ‘Comments,’ below) VI.Toxicology (see attached report for full details; testing performed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine) A.Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens: 1.Fentanyl 11 ng/mL 2.Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL 3.4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL 4.Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL 5.11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL 6.Cotinine positive 7.Caffeine positive B.Blood volatiles: negative for ethanol, methanol, isopropanol, or acetone C.Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids, amphetamines, and fentanyl/metabolite D.Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/mL
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  Some info about manslaughter ........

  Criminally negligent manslaughter is variously referred to as criminally negligent homicide in the United States, and gross negligence manslaughter in England and Wales. In Scotland and some Commonwealth of Nations jurisdictions the offence of culpable homicide might apply.

  It occurs where death results from serious negligence, or, in some jurisdictions, serious recklessness. A high degree of negligence is required to warrant criminal liability.[14] A related concept is that of willful blindness, which is where a defendant intentionally puts themselves in a position where they will be unaware of facts which would render them liable.

  Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where there is an omission to act when there is a duty to do so, or a failure to perform a duty owed, which leads to a death. The existence of the duty is essential because the law does not impose criminal liability for a failure to act unless a specific duty is owed to the victim. It is most common in the case of professionals who are grossly negligent in the course of their employment. An example is where a doctor fails to notice a patient's oxygen supply has disconnected and the patient dies (R v Adomako and "R v Perreau").[15] Another example could be leaving a child locked in a car on a hot day.
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  It would be fair to say that Floyd has to take the majority of responsibility to what happened to him.

  Resisting arrest and fighting with cops is always going to produce a bad outcome and when the perpetrator has apparent health issues perhaps induced by illicit drugs the matters can dramatically turn for the worse.
  

  And what about those stupid street pedestrians that were shouting at the cops causing a disturbance causing the cop(s) to lose focus to what they were doing .?

  Shouldn't they also be held responsible ?

  I think so.
  
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  But can we be dismissive to the toxicology report made by that clinic ?

  Can we conclude those doctors and practitioners are falsifying those reports out of media persuasion and influence ?.

  Here's something I pulled up concerning fentanyl toward its usable safe level right up to its most dangerous level .

  Overdose results in respiratory depression which is reversible with naloxone. Sudden death can also occur because of cardiac arrest or severe anaphylactic reaction. The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. The recommended serum concentration for analgesia is 1–2 ng/ml and for anaesthesia it is 10–20 ng/ml. Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved. While fatalities have been reported after therapeutic use, many deaths have occurred as a result of the misuse of pharmaceutical products. Both used and unused fentanyl patches have been injected, smoked, snorted or taken orally with fatal consequences.
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  Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

  if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

  there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

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  Valid point Simon, but that would be dependent to just how much fentanyl is streaming through a person's arterial blood system at the time of the suppression.

  Lets say Floyd swallowed some tabs just when the cops pulled up behind him in his car. they didn't kick in right away but during the hold down they did and that stopped his heart and breathing.

  The toxicology report would have shown high levels of fentanyl in his system if that were the case.

  More information will eventually come forward about this, as well him dealing with Covid-19 symptoms.

  From the autopsy report he sounds like he was a train wreak about to happen.