Posts by Rocketman123

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

Even the CDC says that natural immunity develops automatically

So who cares ?

Is it appropriate to let thousands die while natural immunity slowly develops ?

I know lets forget about vaccinations all together, let the hospitals fill up with people with severe symptoms shutting down hospitals regular duties and operations.

Take a chance, play Russian roulette with your own and other people's lives.

The anti vaxers will win the argument.

I think some people here are much more smarter and informed than most established government health officials.

Correctly they should be the ones to replace them .

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Splane's "Apostate" talk transcript

by FFGhost in

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for any who can't (like me) muster the masochism necessary to sit through an 18-or-so hour commentary on a 30 minute talk from a certain famous/infamous commentator, here is a link to a transcript from splane's saturday afternoon "apostate" talk:.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ot7z2e/splanes_apostate_rant_transcription/.

there are many topics worthy of consideration, but this particular section really stood out to me:.

Rocketman123

Ironically there are past leaders of the JWS who were truly apostate , evil , corrupt , unrighteous hypocrites.

This guy comes to mind ......

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What kind of literary device is this?

by EdenOne in

i know there's a name for this technique but i need a name, nonetheless.. if i say to my audience: apostates are horrible, satanic, dirty, sinners, mentally diseased etc ... all hateful traits.

and then i say: person a is an apostate.

then my audience will associate all the traits previously associated with "apostate" with person a. but i can say: i never said person a was horrible, satanic, dirty, mentally diseased etc.

Rocketman123

Creating attached identities to people is what the WTS has done, determining who is righteous, loyal , faithfully obedient and with little inherent sin.

Of course those designations don't reflect upon themselves directly for they are the ones who make up the doctrines and rules of behavior to be follow.

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What kind of literary device is this?

by EdenOne in

i know there's a name for this technique but i need a name, nonetheless.. if i say to my audience: apostates are horrible, satanic, dirty, sinners, mentally diseased etc ... all hateful traits.

and then i say: person a is an apostate.

then my audience will associate all the traits previously associated with "apostate" with person a. but i can say: i never said person a was horrible, satanic, dirty, mentally diseased etc.

Rocketman123

Character labeling preconditioning

Ironically there are past leaders of the JWS who were truly apostate , evil , corrupt , unrighteous hypocrites.

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

Is it really a Liberal ideology that is only pro vaccination ?

There is high number of right wing conservatives who are also pro vaccination as they see it as moral responsible imperative with the concern of others..

To make a better distinction of who is pro vac to those who aren't, take a survey of people who are 70 and up with those who are under 30 and that's where you see a stark contrast of results.

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

So you would agree then AM that vaccinations have worked to their original intent ?

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

One of the issues surrounding this subject is that certain folks refuse to read information.

from your own words no less

Only thing you do DD is pull biased selective information from somewhere that supports your biased position, kind of like JWS trying to support their doctrines.

Are you still a practicing JWS ?

Just to use an example here in Canada,.....

Provinces such as Alberta and Ontario who had a strong repulsion of social restrictions eventually grew to a state that all their hospitals became overwhelmed by people who had high level Covid symptoms, which inevitable made these hospitals stop other planned surgeries due to a lack of beds etc.

Here in BC social restrictions and mask wearing regulations have been lifted but Covid cases have dropped dramatically, why ? because of the population vaccination program.

The science is there as evidence, if you want to deny that that's your problem.

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Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

by LoveUniHateExams in

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hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

how many jabs have you had?.

Rocketman123

First vac was Astrazeneca, had slight flu like symptoms for a day, next day back to normal.

Second vac was Moderna, this was a little worse, sore injection area, pains all over for a couple of days.

Oh well , I work in a public populated work place so I thought it was for the best.

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

The fact is that unvaccinated people have more of chance of suffering worse symptoms from this virus with its new variants.

Regulated social restrictions and mask wearing was never suppose to be a permanent law, its was implemented as such to a time when the majority of the populations are vaccinated, the post occurring results were known and accepted to what they are.

Covid is going to be around for awhile yet but governments are trying block the number of people who have severe symptoms, who need to be hospitalized in other words.

If you particularly think because your young and healthy and you cant die from this virus , your purely ignorant to the facts.

The young and health do die from this virus, although not the number of the physically weak and elderly .

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

How about the reasoning that vaccinated people who do get Covid have a much lesser chance of dying from it or getting severely sick, with the potential of crippling most hospital systems.

That was the whole purpose of social restrictions and mask wearing.

Do you get it now DD ?

612,000 people died form this virus in the US alone

Put all other information aside and accept the intent.

You either got to be one huge apathetic closed minded idiot or just a pure blatant sociopath