Posts by Rocketman123

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

You either don’t care, or haven’t seen the information due to censorship

Yes there is so much censorship around the world, why even China instituted social restrictions and then introduced a public vaccine and they are the epitome of censorship.

Yes DD all government health officials around the world are at fault and blame, who claimed they were perfect in all matters anyways, did they ?

Let it be said though that there were mistakes made in the intent of curbing infections in certain countries which had terrible results.

This pandemic virus problem was a new experience for many including many in the medical community, their efforts by them and government health officials were not in vain although they were certainly painful and annoying for everyone.

So DD are you a practicing JWS ?

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

Anti Vaxers like DD don't seem to care enough about people .

Social restrictions were ineffective to him, even though the evidence is clear to the contrary..

So DD you didn't answer my question if your a practicing JWS who we all know hate those worldly governments. ?????

I guess it comes down to how much social empathy and compassion to others you have.

If your biased toward not having any social restrictions or vaccinations then your probably going to support that ideology.

Some have even said vaccinations are pointless and redundant.

As it is most counties have followed along the line of social restrictions until most of their population is vaccinated and then removing those restrictions .

I guess all those countries were wrong in their intent and direction .

I can only surmise that if DD had to spend a month in a hospital with a oxygen tube up his nose he might have a different opinion on the matter.

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

Even the CDC says that natural immunity develops automatically

So who cares ?

Is it appropriate to let thousands die while natural immunity slowly develops ?

I know lets forget about vaccinations all together, let the hospitals fill up with people with severe symptoms shutting down hospitals regular duties and operations.

Take a chance, play Russian roulette with your own and other people's lives.

The anti vaxers will win the argument.

I think some people here are much more smarter and informed than most established government health officials.

Correctly they should be the ones to replace them .

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Splane's "Apostate" talk transcript

by FFGhost in

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for any who can't (like me) muster the masochism necessary to sit through an 18-or-so hour commentary on a 30 minute talk from a certain famous/infamous commentator, here is a link to a transcript from splane's saturday afternoon "apostate" talk:.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ot7z2e/splanes_apostate_rant_transcription/.

there are many topics worthy of consideration, but this particular section really stood out to me:.

Rocketman123

Ironically there are past leaders of the JWS who were truly apostate , evil , corrupt , unrighteous hypocrites.

This guy comes to mind ......

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What kind of literary device is this?

by EdenOne in

i know there's a name for this technique but i need a name, nonetheless.. if i say to my audience: apostates are horrible, satanic, dirty, sinners, mentally diseased etc ... all hateful traits.

and then i say: person a is an apostate.

then my audience will associate all the traits previously associated with "apostate" with person a. but i can say: i never said person a was horrible, satanic, dirty, mentally diseased etc.

Rocketman123

Creating attached identities to people is what the WTS has done, determining who is righteous, loyal , faithfully obedient and with little inherent sin.

Of course those designations don't reflect upon themselves directly for they are the ones who make up the doctrines and rules of behavior to be follow.

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What kind of literary device is this?

by EdenOne in

i know there's a name for this technique but i need a name, nonetheless.. if i say to my audience: apostates are horrible, satanic, dirty, sinners, mentally diseased etc ... all hateful traits.

and then i say: person a is an apostate.

then my audience will associate all the traits previously associated with "apostate" with person a. but i can say: i never said person a was horrible, satanic, dirty, mentally diseased etc.

Rocketman123

Character labeling preconditioning

Ironically there are past leaders of the JWS who were truly apostate , evil , corrupt , unrighteous hypocrites.

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

Is it really a Liberal ideology that is only pro vaccination ?

There is high number of right wing conservatives who are also pro vaccination as they see it as moral responsible imperative with the concern of others..

To make a better distinction of who is pro vac to those who aren't, take a survey of people who are 70 and up with those who are under 30 and that's where you see a stark contrast of results.

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

So you would agree then AM that vaccinations have worked to their original intent ?

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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG in

dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

Rocketman123

One of the issues surrounding this subject is that certain folks refuse to read information.

from your own words no less

Only thing you do DD is pull biased selective information from somewhere that supports your biased position, kind of like JWS trying to support their doctrines.

Are you still a practicing JWS ?

Just to use an example here in Canada,.....

Provinces such as Alberta and Ontario who had a strong repulsion of social restrictions eventually grew to a state that all their hospitals became overwhelmed by people who had high level Covid symptoms, which inevitable made these hospitals stop other planned surgeries due to a lack of beds etc.

Here in BC social restrictions and mask wearing regulations have been lifted but Covid cases have dropped dramatically, why ? because of the population vaccination program.

The science is there as evidence, if you want to deny that that's your problem.

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Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

by LoveUniHateExams in

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hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

how many jabs have you had?.

Rocketman123

First vac was Astrazeneca, had slight flu like symptoms for a day, next day back to normal.

Second vac was Moderna, this was a little worse, sore injection area, pains all over for a couple of days.

Oh well , I work in a public populated work place so I thought it was for the best.