i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
AlanF
I have just finished Carl Sagans 'Contact' but didn't realise that he had commented on the witnesses, even though I know the society has quoted him in the Creation book and the like. I appreciate your time, thanks
p.s. Why am I just a Newbie with 70+ posts??
a brief presentation of brother fred franz revelatory understanding of the lamb and the lion snuggling up to each other in isaiah 11. all quotes are from:
mans salvation out of world distress at hand (1975).
indeed, this prophecy cannot be talking about literal animals because:
Refiners fire
Well done. Its people like you on this message board that make everyone keep coming back.
Thanks
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
Neyank
Thanks. Ive got all that info just waiting but what do you think would be the ultimate in stumper questions?
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
AlanF
Simply fantastic. Thats what i'm looking for! Thanks.
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
JT,
Thanks for that! excellent point. The two elders will probably not read it and as you say it limits ant impact.
I think i'll do what you say.
Thanks Willpower. Great points.
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
Teenyduck,
Thanks for the advice but I have been building up to this for a while, even so, I didn't expect my mum to go running to them, especially after she has personally checked all of the articles herself and even wrote to the society. But I am not surprised either. The fact that I have had NO phone calls, visits from any member of the cong that I was associated with from a child ( I'm 32 now) is an indictment in itself don't you think?
There's been a lot of great material been posted on this site recently and I want to thank everyone for their research.
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
Another way you can help me folks is to tell me what NOT to start talking about. I know certain subjects need a lot of time to discuss and I want to get as much into the few hours as I can. Thanks everyone!
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
I'm quite looking forward to it actually! I've had a lot bottled in for a long time, but I know I am kidding myself if I ecpect one word to enter their collective dimness. Thanks everyone.
Can you think of any specific lines of reason that I can use to entrap them.
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
I know...I was one of them! I have found it frustrating with my parents. I have spent long hours logically going through loads of info working through lines of reasoning like:
So, the society has stated on many occasions that it is God's prophet, do you agree? Yes
And Deutronomy tells us what a false prophet is? Yes
And the society has prophecied many things that did not happen, do you agree? Yes
So the society are false prophets aren't they? No, they were just over enthusiastic
The frustration eats me up sometimes! As you say they they are told what to believe and how to answer and that is what I need help in trying to combat.
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
The thing is I won the last arguement but they left me alone to my great surprise. But I can't see that happening tomorrow.The other thing that annoys me is this Theocratic Lying. Asking to come around to talk about the study but obviously thats the last thing on their mind.
