Posts by searchfothetruth

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WoMD ... so where are they?

by Simon in

now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

searchfothetruth

Dubla

I think you are in a minority of people who think that the war was justified. You are entitled to your opinion but you should really read things that are posted before answering them, it helps you know!

The British newspapers, even the ones that supported the war, are asking difficult questions and are ripping the official evidence to shreads.

Maybe you don't watch any other news than the extremely biased Fox News, for which a British journalist said the other night 'the most pro-government journalism he had ever had the mis-fortune to see'.

John Simpson, on the documentary the other night, said that he watched all the Arab news and the American news and the Arab news was less 'anti-american' than the American news was 'pro-american.'

Surely this gives the public a lob-sided view of the war, especially when the public are shown a highly edited and sanitised view of the war.

Are you sure your not George Bush, and just can't spell your nickname correctly?

Pleasuredome,

Wasting your time mate, you've proved your point well, but no-ones listening.

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WoMD ... so where are they?

by Simon in

now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

searchfothetruth

Ballistic.

Yes, I saw the channel 4 documentary called 'The Real Images of the War'.

I was going to post a thread about it but i've been 'told' to stop posting threads that may be controversial to our war supporting friends on this board.

But since this thread was started by Simon, I feel it would be OK to answer on it.

The documentary was by Channel 4 and included footage of the following:

American troops opening fire on a bus, when the bus burst into flames, 3 men got off, two fell to the ground and one ran away. As he ran away he was gunned down in a hail of bullets by 'up to 40 marines'.

Pictures of the aftermath of cluster bomb (which are banned) showing children ripped to pieces by shrapnel.

Pictures of women and children in hospital with the most horrendous injuries you could possibly imagine.

Jon Simpson, the BBC journalist, showed footage of the aftermath of the bomb that hit the convoy that he was travelling in which was attacked, TWICE, by an American pilot. The footage showed the tanks and vehicles, flying great big american flags so as to be identifiable from the air. It also showed afterward, the people picking up hands and feet that had been blown off by this 'dispicable act of bombing'.

It showed the manipulation of the footage which seemed to show a mass of people surrounding the statue of Saddam Hussein which was pulled down by an American tank. It then showed the wide angle view and the square was virtually empty save for a few hundred Iraqis and these were outnumbered by journalists and soldiers.

It showed a road strewn with bodies and parts of bodies. The witnesses said that the convoy of cars that had been driving away from the fighting all had white flags but the American troops opened fire on the convoy killing everyone in it and the pictures of bodies burned inside cars etc were absolutely horrific.

If anyone says they support the war, then they have to support the innocent loss of life that comes with it.

Anyone who see's the pictures of children with arms, legs and heads missing should realise that if the British and American governments sanctioned this attack by lying and manipulating evidence then there should be no doubt that war-crimes were committed.

Over 7000 innocent civilians died and are still dying every day.

Soldiers that are following orders are still dying every day.

This war was an abomination.

I for one am amazed that, with the overwhelming evidence that the world was lyed to, that the reasons for attack are NOT clear, that support of this war, and it's perpetrators is as disgusting as being part of it.

I've tried to link this program but it is not available for viewing.

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Interesting quote in the July 8th Awake

by ignored_one in

this was taken from the main article "why so many violent crimes now?".

hate groups and cults.

evidence suggests that some hate groups or cults have been a strong influence in the commission of certain crimes.

searchfothetruth

The only problem with linking the JW's to this article is that they have NO charismatic leaders!

By the way, your the spitting image of Bill Bailey.

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Predictions for the New Football Season....no egg chasers allowed!

by searchfothetruth in

predictions for the new football season: .

1. who will win the premiership?

2. who will be top goal scorer?

searchfothetruth

We'll have to wait and see.

Owen wasn't firing on all cylinders this year and had poor support, but still scored over 30 goals!

Birmingham did well this year and with a few good signings this summers hould improve, and I would Love Newcastle to win the Premiership, if we don't of course.

Did you know that West Brom only got one penalty all year, and Man Utd got 6 penalties from one referee at Old Trafford alone! Fair?

And I do agree that unless Heskey gets his act together he will have to go...sorry Emile.

Maybe Birmingham will buy him.?

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Predictions for the New Football Season....no egg chasers allowed!

by searchfothetruth in

predictions for the new football season: .

1. who will win the premiership?

2. who will be top goal scorer?

searchfothetruth

Argh, egg chaser.

We mean proper football, not a bunch of guys padded up to eyeballs and running with the ball, how is that football!

It's nearly as bad as rugby!

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Predictions for the New Football Season....no egg chasers allowed!

by searchfothetruth in

predictions for the new football season: .

1. who will win the premiership?

2. who will be top goal scorer?

searchfothetruth

E.man,

I told you...if you say Portsmouth for number 1 you have to say Man Utd for number 3, so i'd be happy if you included Man Utd along side Southampton...thank-you.

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Matthew Chapter 9. New Translation

by Duncan in

jw
friends

new discoveries and fresh evidence has become available, shedding new light on the oldest-existing bible texts.

the wts has used its considerable resources in getting hold of this documentary evidence, in order to present a new translation of the gospels, which will be released at the summer conventions.. here's a taster: a new translation of matthew chapter 9: .

as jesus passed on from there, he saw a man named matthew sitting at the customs post.

searchfothetruth

Excellant

You need to get a job in the writing department!

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Predictions for the New Football Season....no egg chasers allowed!

by searchfothetruth in

predictions for the new football season: .

1. who will win the premiership?

2. who will be top goal scorer?

searchfothetruth

Seen as no-one seems interested, I may aswell give you my predictions:

1. Liverpool - we'll finally do it (fingers crossed)

2. Michael Owen (God) He's been building up to it this season.

3. Leicester, Bolton and Everton (well we can live in hope!)

4. Barcelona (sleeping giants...few good buys in the summer)

5. Liverpool.

6. Don't really care

7. Glenn Hoddle (He's on borrowed time)

8. Liverpool ( I'll be right about one at least! )

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Who Is Your Top American?

by expatbrit in

jw
friends

the bbc is conducting a poll to find people's opinion on the most important personage in american history.. a short list of the top ten nominees will be posted on the website tomorrow, and then you can vote on your choice from those ten.. here is the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/wtwta/2957480.stm.

happy voting!.

expatbrit

searchfothetruth

Now your really upsetting me....not.

Grow up children

It's called sarcasm.

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WoMD ... so where are they?

by Simon in

now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

searchfothetruth

Patio,

Just thought i'd post that article you mentioned:

Pentagon Report Found
'No Reliable Evidence'
Of Iraq WMD By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
The Independent - UK
6-7-3

A report by the Pentagon's intelligence agency concluded last year there was "no reliable evidence" to prove Saddam Hussein had developed chemical weapons - further undermining claims from Washington and London that the Iraqi regime presented a genuine threat to the West.

A leaked copy of the report by the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) reveals that, despite extensive analysis, experts were unable definitively to conclude Iraq was either stockpiling or producing weapons of mass destruction (WMD). The report's contents will add to the considerable pressure Tony Blair and President George Bush face as their pre-war claims come under intense scrutiny.

"There is no reliable information on whether Iraq is producing and stockpiling chemical weapons, or whether Iraq has - or will - establish its chemical warfare agent production facilities," a summary page of the DIA report said. The report does not suggest Iraq did not have WMD. Indeed, it concludes that Iraq "probably" has such stockpiles. But its language is far more circumspect than that of senior Bush administration officials and the President himself, who insisted Iraq not only had large stocks of WMD but it was capable of delivering them in weapons.

On 19 September, for instance, Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, told Congress that Iraq had "amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons, including VX, sarin and mustard gas".

Last summer, speaking to the US Fifth Fleet in Bahrain, Mr Rumsfeld was more explicit. "They have them, and they continue to develop them, and they have weaponised chemical weapons," he said. "They've had an active programme to develop nuclear weapons. It's clear they are a tively developing biological weapons."

The DIA report, entitled Iraq: Key Weapons Facilities - An Operational Support Study, suggests Iraq had developed biological weapons, though it made clear experts were uncertain of the nature of those weapons or how many had been developed. "Iraq is assessed to possess biological agent stockpiles that may be weaponised and ready for use,'' it said. "The size of those stockpiles is uncertain and is subject to debate. The nature and condition of those stockpiles are unknown."

Yesterday, Vice-Admiral Lowell Jacoby, the DIA director, said the summary page - "a single sentence" - ought not to be interpreted that the DIA "doubted the existence of the WMD programme". However, he confirmed the DIA had no hard information on weapons, stockpiles or locations.

Analysts were quick to jump on the summary report, obtained by Bloomberg News, as evidence the US and Britain had overstated the case in regard to Iraq's weapons capability.Jonathan Tucker, a former UN weapons inspector and senior research fellow at the US Institute for Peace, said: "The DIA report suggests that before the Iraq war, the US intelligence community did not have hard evidence that Saddam Hussein possessed large stocks of chemical and biological warfare agents that posed an imminent threat to US national security."

Two months after fighting in Iraq ended, US and British troops have failed to uncover any conclusive proof that Saddam had developed or stock-piled WMD. Congress is currently reviewing the pre-war intelligence and the CIA has ordered its own internal review.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=413164