I got nothin', if everything comes down to varying definitions (which is your point, of course).
schnell
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Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.
by jwfacts ini cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.
are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.
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How long did people like Methuselah really live?
by dubstepped ini was working today and my brain was working in circles like it often does and i started wondering about what i was always told about people like methuselah in bible times, and their incredibly claims of longevity.
i've tried researching things but have a hard time getting through all of the bible thumpers to some real evidence, and figured that some here may be more informed or have done the research previously.
so, did people really live longer way back when?
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schnell
And, to say that humans weren't keeping time quite the same as we do today is somewhat accurate... Except that Genesis was compiled much more recently than that, and at a time of heavy Chaldean and Persian influence. Hence the astrology, or why else would Genesis 1:14 mention not only days and years but signs and sacred times?
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How long did people like Methuselah really live?
by dubstepped ini was working today and my brain was working in circles like it often does and i started wondering about what i was always told about people like methuselah in bible times, and their incredibly claims of longevity.
i've tried researching things but have a hard time getting through all of the bible thumpers to some real evidence, and figured that some here may be more informed or have done the research previously.
so, did people really live longer way back when?
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schnell
If you divide the ages by 12, then Adam was created 138 years before the flood.
It's irredeemable nonsense if taken literally.
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JW requesting food assistance to Babylon the Great.
by sp74bb inbarcelona (spain), jan 8, 2017 at 1.30 pm.
two publishers of the tagalog group in barcelona (public meeting at 4.30 pm) do visit an evangelical church barcelona downtown to receive free food bags.... i can confirm that the queue was long.
the pastor in charge of this church has not allowed me to take picture of some older jw living barcelona downtown, but i was able to catch these young publishers.
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schnell
The "life saving work of the Witnesses".
Ya know, I think it was a program on PRI recently that interviewed a Baptist minister who is helping Syrian refugees integrate in the USA. He said he believes in Christ and of course he wishes everyone would do the same, but that does not come first. Helping his fellow man regardless of belief is what comes first.
On the other hand, I helped at a kingdom hall renovation in a bad neighborhood, one right across from a known campsite of homeless people.
When lunch time came around, did the Witnesses prepare some food for the homeless, too? Nope. Did they eat outside in front of them?
Yep.
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Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.
by jwfacts ini cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.
are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.
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schnell
They all believe you live and die. So there's that.
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JW.org as a Prank Tool
by schnell inthe moment i saw the "request a study" form on the site, i thought, "umm, that could be a bad thing.".
but to date, i have heard of only one case where it was used for less than genuine purposes.
that was in the case of a "game developer" who was selling crappy asset-flips on steam.
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schnell
@Saethydd, I believe Anonymous actually has cracked some into the WTS financial operations, tracing money that allegedly goes to protecting pedophiles, etc. I don't know the extent or verity of this, however.
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How long did people like Methuselah really live?
by dubstepped ini was working today and my brain was working in circles like it often does and i started wondering about what i was always told about people like methuselah in bible times, and their incredibly claims of longevity.
i've tried researching things but have a hard time getting through all of the bible thumpers to some real evidence, and figured that some here may be more informed or have done the research previously.
so, did people really live longer way back when?
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schnell
It is claimed that some of these old time counters did not grasp the "0" concept, well here they added one, 96.9 years is not far fetched, what is a zero among friends anyway?,
I would like to point out, in addition to the problem of sexual maturity that someone else mentioned, that if you're dividing all the ages by 10, what you're implying is that Adam was created just shy of 166 years before a global flood. Humankind, in that model, is less than 4700 years old.
Nope. I mean, I get that it's a myth, but even as a myth... Just nope.
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JW.org as a Prank Tool
by schnell inthe moment i saw the "request a study" form on the site, i thought, "umm, that could be a bad thing.".
but to date, i have heard of only one case where it was used for less than genuine purposes.
that was in the case of a "game developer" who was selling crappy asset-flips on steam.
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schnell
On that note, I remember when they started pushing the site and they were so, so proud that they were getting so many hits from China.
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Anyone who has run a website would know what was really happening (i.e. bots), but they were certainly proud of it.
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For those that read the bible, does the true message of scripture still come through in NWT?
by NikL inmy active and in jw wife is up for reading bible together.
thing is she wants to use nwt.. i have problems with that translation as you my imagine.. just wondering if you thought the true message of the bible will shine through the deliberate tampering of the nwt?.
i know many people here don't like or want to read the bible and think it's rubbish anyway, so if that's you, you can save your comments :-).
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schnell
To name an example, words like grace are so present in this NIV Bible, and I think the replacement in the NWT of grace for 'undeserved kindness' really is a shame. It does not read the same, and to me it feels like the meaning also changes somehow.
@Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu, I agree, and I debated this with a JW yesterday online. He insisted that "undeserved kindness" is the same thing and that we DON'T deserve it. It seems pathological that he would prefer this, but he probably doesn't see it that way.
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For those that read the bible, does the true message of scripture still come through in NWT?
by NikL inmy active and in jw wife is up for reading bible together.
thing is she wants to use nwt.. i have problems with that translation as you my imagine.. just wondering if you thought the true message of the bible will shine through the deliberate tampering of the nwt?.
i know many people here don't like or want to read the bible and think it's rubbish anyway, so if that's you, you can save your comments :-).
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schnell
Yeah, use a couple translations and compare. Do some "horizontal reading". Give her a taste of what the others say, and you might dispel a few notions about the NWT.