Posts by schnell

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to all a thank you
by notalone in
1. jw
2. friends
to all on this site who from their hearts participate, thank you.

you encourage thought, offer support and share laughs, thank you.

you may never know what point has touched a heart or opened a mind.
schnell

That's the beauty of open discourse.
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Oh God(s)!
by tepidpoultry in
1. jw
2. experiences
meant to hopefully get your mind off the craziness which we sadly refer to as the news these days,.

we'll call this one .

fun for seculars.
schnell

good luck with that one, and by the way no there isn't. You are treading on dogmatism with that viewpoint.
I find it hilarious that I would have to prove there is no god to an atheist.
But hey, if your contention is that as long as the goal posts can be moved, then one might correctly say there COULD be a god, that is what I was referring to. That's human imagination. And those goal posts will continue to be moved as our knowledge continues to expand.
I fail to see how it is incumbent upon me to disprove a figment of another's imagination. Prove to me that the Invisible Pink Unicorn doesn't exist and I'll use your method.
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Goddesses are cooler
by pale.emperor in
1. jw
2. experiences
i dont know about you, but for some reason if i were to go around worshiping some deity i should have done better and looked outside the bible.

i mean, there's some pretty cool goddesses out there in other religions.

here's my top 3:.
schnell

I think it's interesting that Mitochondrial Eve is said to predate Y-Chromosomal Adam, and goddesses predate gods. Patriarchy and misogyny seems to come in later.
Very very old cultures, such as the Navajo, are much more matriarchal.
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Goddesses are cooler
by pale.emperor in
1. jw
2. experiences
i dont know about you, but for some reason if i were to go around worshiping some deity i should have done better and looked outside the bible.

i mean, there's some pretty cool goddesses out there in other religions.

here's my top 3:.
schnell

Spider woman.
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This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies
by the-Question in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?

nothing better to do with your time?.

you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.
schnell

Check the newbies the-Question will be one of them. He's getting so much attention...... he won't be able not to come back.
Attention.
Ya know, many of us left the organization without any intent of starting our own cult from the other disillusioned followers, though that is the accusation hurled at us by the GB and some rank and file. I was certainly accused of that by my faithful brother, even after I admitted to him that I'm atheist and have no belief in spiritualism.
The moment he came on here and criticized the GB, I got the impression that that's what he's after. Because if the GB is failing, who do you suppose is to take their place? People like him?
Fuck that.
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This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies
by the-Question in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?

nothing better to do with your time?.

you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.
schnell

*sigh*
70 years is symbolic in Hebrew belief, and is usually to be interpreted as 72 years (which is a multiple of 12 and half of 144... Holy writ is loaded with astrology and numerology.)
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This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies
by the-Question in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?

nothing better to do with your time?.

you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.
schnell

That's nice.
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A Perfect Life Isn't Worth Living?
by Sorry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
think of your favorite tv shows.

what do they all have in common?

the answer is they revolve around some type of problem or conflict.
schnell

There will always be conflict. A concept of perfection without conflict is wishful thinking, and it's also poisonous to art.
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Oh God(s)!
by tepidpoultry in
1. jw
2. experiences
meant to hopefully get your mind off the craziness which we sadly refer to as the news these days,.

we'll call this one .

fun for seculars.
schnell

It puts you in the positive strong atheist claim that there is definitely no god(s), and the burden now lies on you to prove that case.
And plenty of information is available to make that case. What deism remains is left to the human imagination in response to the evidence that there is no god.
27
Oh God(s)!
by tepidpoultry in
1. jw
2. experiences
meant to hopefully get your mind off the craziness which we sadly refer to as the news these days,.

we'll call this one .

fun for seculars.
schnell

Theism
They say that God didn't create man but man created God. I feel there is motivational and political psychology at work in theism, and I sense a little bit of human narcissism. Why is God anthropomorphic, the "Grand Man of the Universe"? Is there a god for lizards and whales and chimpanzees too?
"Well there is one god and he created us in his image." Why did he create us as apes then? Why not something else entirely?
And like any other spiritualist matter, why is it that the magic spell of creation is explainable through science WITHOUT a magical anthropomorphic deity?
Deism
Okay, so the God of the Bible doesn't exist. That still leaves it open for deism, right? Perhaps there was a deity who directed evolution to some degree and then left entirely. Well, in that case, you'd have to prove that intelligent direction was really needed at any point, which it evidently wasn't. And my contention with deism is... Who should care? Why care about deism? What does this deity matter at all? Even if it were true, it would be like, "Wow, cool. Well I'm glad this deity doesn't require us to worship him, now let's move on with life."
Conclusion
I'm a 7. I'm fine with gods as psychological/political/universal metaphor, to the extent that it is understood that we aren't talking about an actual intelligent designer in the sky. The Stoics referred to nature as Zeus, Einstein referred to God, and none of them believed in an actual god or pantheon. The problem, of course, is when all the 1s and 2s confuse their expression for sincere belief.
TL;DR Prove to me that the Invisible Pink Unicorn doesn't exist and I will use your method.