@Pete Zahut how did I miss that?! Dong Lover's awesome, and I heard in his recent NPR "Fresh Air" interview that he grew up religious, but I must have been out of the truck when he said he was a witness. Interesting.
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US vs THEM
by Anders Andersen ini still remember that feeling.
thank god it's gone for good.
i used to be part of us witnesses.
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That was awesome, Anders. :)
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by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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Oh, and how many times does 360 go into 2520?
Naturally, it's seven. It's "seven times".
2520 / 360 = 7
2520 = 36 * 70
So, have fun thumping that occult text at people door-to-door. :)
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I think the CO just knocked on my door.
by schnell ini can't be too sure, because i didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our co visit.. it's been a while since i last had elders at my door.
last time that happened, i posted about it, so it was only a few months.. i really don't want to talk with them.
is there a chance i'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if i don't?.
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Thank you, scratchme1010. You, I consider an online friend.
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by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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Oh, and immediately before that discussion of precession, Hall wrote about the zodiac in ages past having only 10 signs.
With 12 signs, each sign has 30° as he says in the above quote, but with only 10 signs, each sign has 36°.
1260 = 36 * 7 * 5
1260 = 36 * 35
Now considering what Hall wrote in the above quote about precession, how many times does 360° (the full circle of the zodiac) go into 2160?
2160 / 360 = 6
Hmm. Interesting too is "time and times and half a time." That means 3.5 times, right? Well, how many times does 360° (the full circle of the zodiac) go into 1260?
1260 / 360 = 3.5
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by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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I mean, it's not as if 72 years wasn't significant. As Manly P. Hall says about precession:
Each year the sun passes entirely around the zodiac and returns to the point from which it started—the vernal equinox—and each year it falls little behind the spot in the zodiacal sign where it crossed the previous year. Each sign of the zodiac consists of thirty degrees, and as the sun loses about one degree every seventy two years, it regresses through one entire constellation (or sign) in approximately 2,160 years, and through the entire zodiac in about ] 25,920 years. (Authorities disagree concerning these figures.) This retrograde motion is called the precession of the equinoxes. This means that in the course of about 25,920 years, which constitute one Great Solar or Platonic Year, each one of the twelve constellations occupies a position at the vernal equinox for nearly 2,160 years, then gives place to the previous sign.
(Hall, The Secret Teachings of the Ages)
I like how 1260 is 2160 with a couple digits transposed, and it's 900 off. That's interesting.
Of course, what I'm getting at here is that the book of Revelation is loaded with astrology. The book of Revelation is where you get 1260 years. The WTS, of course, demonizes astrology, so their doctrine of history is at the very least internally inconsistent.
So basically, even while they discredit things like Ptolemy's Canon, etc., you could apply the very same logic to them.
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70 years = symbolic
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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)
by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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Which fact?
Oh, I don't know, the one you're arguing about, possibly?
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It is a relatively recent idea that 2520 years after a temple somewhere in the world got destroyed, something/anything would happen in the spirit realm. It is that idea that creates the interest a party has in that 2520 years terminating in 1914 or in 1933/4.
Why would this god wait 2520 years to do anything? Why would anything like this take that long, and that specific amount of time? I don't know, because the church wants money, that's why.
I could play with the numbers a little. Maybe that'll bring up something interesting.
2 + 5 + 2 + 0 = 9
1 + 2 + 6 + 0 = 9
1 + 4 + 4 = 9
1260 * 2 = 2520
2520 / 12 = 1260 / 24 = 210 (Note that 2520 is a multiple of 12, because of course it is.)
1260 / 12 = 105
12 * 100 = 1200
12 * 5 = 60 (Yes, yes, Babylonian math was base-60 and 1260 is 12*100 + 60. At this point I'm messing around.)
2520 = 12*5*21*2
2520 = 2*3*4*5*7*3
2520 = 3*4*5*6*7 (Of course, 1260 = 2*3*5*6*7)
1260 = 35 * 36
36 * 2 = 72
36 * 2 * 2 = 144
Anyway. Carry on.
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Some people live in a construct where fact is subjective and logical deduction is washed away like grease on Teflon with one simple card: "You weren't there."
These people have already bought the premise of their party's circular reasoning, and they feel they have an interest in their party being right.
Everyone else gets to deal with it.