schnell
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We deserve to die
by elfgoblin inat the meeting today, we were reading the watchtower and this elder apologetically said to such a degree in regards to romans 5:12 that "we humans are not worthy of any mercy from jehovah.
we shouldn't even have free will because we can't possibly do anything good enough to please jehovah.
we don't even deserve life because of sin.
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Genesis Lifetimes and Numerology
by schnell inout of morbid curiosity, i would like to here reduce the digits of the lifetimes stated in genesis chapter 5. it is clear that no human being has ever lived that long, and perhaps there is some numerological meaning to these numbers rather than literal history.
7 after he became the father of enosh, seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.
10 after he became the father of kenan, enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.
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schnell
No that's what a rational person does.
I'm not so sure a rational person would believe someone lived for 930 years.
If Adam's a metaphor how do you know that the numbers associated with him are literal, metaphorical or just made up by some person 2,000 years ago and repeatedly changed in later translations?
It is made up. I'm not sure you quite get it, that is part of my point.
So this is just playing with numbers.
*golf clap*
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Genesis Lifetimes and Numerology
by schnell inout of morbid curiosity, i would like to here reduce the digits of the lifetimes stated in genesis chapter 5. it is clear that no human being has ever lived that long, and perhaps there is some numerological meaning to these numbers rather than literal history.
7 after he became the father of enosh, seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.
10 after he became the father of kenan, enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.
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I am going through a course that includes an introduction to programing language and one thing I had to learn was to convert numbers from decimal our normal metric system to binary code, to octal, to hexadecimal. and they are all a way of keeping track but they do not convert evenly at all base 10 base 2,8, and 16.
Terrific! I'm a hobbyist programmer as well. Yeah, we use a base 10 system today, the Babylonians used base 60, and the Hebrews apparently used a kind of base 10 system with other characters for 10s and 100s.
So what if possibly some scribe somewhere along the way just didn't convert his numbers correctly, when he was translating these fables.
Dunno. For sure, there were previous characters and actual kings who were attributed or had attributed to themselves very long lives. There certainly are entire doctrines built around scribal errors.
My contention is that to attempt to calculate "the real lifetimes" from those listed in Genesis is to mistake these characters for historical people. That goes for dividing them by 10 or 12 as well. Human beings are not 6000 years old or borne of a golem spell, and Genesis is myth rather than history.
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Scientology Superbowl Ad
by azor insimply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.
cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.
wtf..
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Imagine one day, you flip through the channels, and Fox News has an ad for JWorg...
...Followed immediately by a report about JW child abuse.
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Scientology Superbowl Ad
by azor insimply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.
cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.
wtf..
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"would you drink a glass of water if it had just a tiny bit of poison in it?"
by stuckinarut2 inno doubt we have all heard that well used "illustration" in public talks etc over the years:.
"if you were handed a glass of water that looked pure, but were told it has just a tiny drop of poison in it, would you drink it?".
the society has used that illustration at length to say we should avoid all influences of every part of the world.. but, as we know, the society has had a track record of errors, false ideas and doctrines.
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They cannot justify the claim that they are somehow special or different from any other religion. Call them a cult, they'll say every other religion is a cult too, and then you're like, "Yeah *shrug*".
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Which Religions Forbid Outside Research?
by AnonVet inmy definition of a cult is just this:if you are not allowed to research outside of your religion's published sources, you are in a cult.what other religions (cults) are there that absolutely forbid outside research on threat of punishment / shunning?
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I agree, slimboyfat.
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Which Religions Forbid Outside Research?
by AnonVet inmy definition of a cult is just this:if you are not allowed to research outside of your religion's published sources, you are in a cult.what other religions (cults) are there that absolutely forbid outside research on threat of punishment / shunning?
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That goes for a lot of things, political cults and abusive relationships as well. The idea is to create an echo chamber of circular reasoning that isn't painlessly escapable. -
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Genesis Lifetimes and Numerology
by schnell inout of morbid curiosity, i would like to here reduce the digits of the lifetimes stated in genesis chapter 5. it is clear that no human being has ever lived that long, and perhaps there is some numerological meaning to these numbers rather than literal history.
7 after he became the father of enosh, seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.
10 after he became the father of kenan, enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.
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schnell
You're assuming that the information about a) Adam and b) how long he lived for, is accurate.
No, that is what a literalist does. Adam isn't a historical person who lived at all. Instead, you have a metaphor for all of mankind, and that's Adam. His lifetime reduces to 12 and then 3, which is interesting happenstance relating to a few weird things and nothing more.
Any actual evidence?
Of occultist ideas in the Bible? Have you read Revelation?
Right - so basically this is all a guess.
More of an inference, and I'm not dogmatic about it. I can't tell, are you upset? Because this is not the subject to get bent out of shape over.
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If the RNWT is revised again...................
by The Searcher in..................then proverbs 3:5 could read thus: "trust in the governing body with all your heart, and do not rely on your own understanding.
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's have already reached this point!.
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When I explained to my friends how science contradicts the idea of a global flood in 2370 BCE, my best friend said, "And why are you leaning on your own understanding?"