A pleasant contrast to the rather humorless JWs
I once saw an old circuit overseer deliver this gem. "Ellen Degeneres? More like Ellen Degenerate. Hehehehe."
But yeah, no, they love gays. *rolls eyes*
like many others, our local church produces a newsletter.
church car park sign... “for members only.
trespassers will be baptised”.. a sunday school teacher asked, “johnny, do you think noah did a lot of fishing when he was in the ark?” “no,” replied johnny, “how could he, with just two worms?”.
A pleasant contrast to the rather humorless JWs
I once saw an old circuit overseer deliver this gem. "Ellen Degeneres? More like Ellen Degenerate. Hehehehe."
But yeah, no, they love gays. *rolls eyes*
i was going to put this in my thread about pyramid schemes, but i thought it's discreet enough to warrant its own.
1) there are many faithful jws.
2) there are many men and women who could take control and fill the void if the watchtower collapses.
Heh. Cool, so they didn't say we're all going to be in bunkers and basements soon.
Give it 5 years and dig those videos right up again when they talk about this system wrapping up.
i was going to put this in my thread about pyramid schemes, but i thought it's discreet enough to warrant its own.
1) there are many faithful jws.
2) there are many men and women who could take control and fill the void if the watchtower collapses.
What makes you think they will collapse?
Hope, and observation of the society thinning everything out and stagnating and being shown for what they are to millions of young people online (the antigay cartoon made it to 9gag) and begging for money on JW Broadcast.
Also, this very year, they've made promises that they cannot take back about the great tribulation. Those bunker videos at the worst convention ever weren't for nothing. It wasn't just a delusional man talking at the podium. It was a lot more visual than that, and it didn't just stay at the convention. All of it went online for the whole world to see. If I wanted to, I could repeatedly upload that footage to sites like 9gag just to keep it in young people's mind.
The organization is incestuous as it is at this point, as the vast majority of current JWs and new baptisms are born in. But as they talk to their friends, all the other kids have to do is Google it. They've peaked.
What's more, I'm actually worried.
At some point, witnesses have to retire. Pensions all over the world and social security in the USA included are not secure. Although the details and politics are debated and disputed, in only a few decades, social security will be insolvent. Millions of people are in for a massive reality check.
I agree, things are changing. If not a collapse, call it a decline, but it's a recipe for transformation, reformation, or schism.
Or indeed, maybe I'll just wake up.
i thought it would be fun to get to know each other's background a little better.. what brought you into the "truth"?
were you born in?.
what caused you to have doubts?.
I was born in, and I didn't start leaving due to the abuses or corruption. I started leaving because it was apparent that I don't think the same way as the JWs around me and I got sick of being dishonest. So I started looking into science and the Bible itself. It was vividly clear right away that the philosophy of history and worldview of the Watchtower are not at all accurate. The Watchtower's use of desperate AND disparate prooftexting assumed that the Bible is all inspired of God, and that's just not true.
And then I came here and found out about everything else.
i was going to put this in my thread about pyramid schemes, but i thought it's discreet enough to warrant its own.
1) there are many faithful jws.
2) there are many men and women who could take control and fill the void if the watchtower collapses.
Didn't they recently announce that they want more programmers?
my wife just asked me this.
my answer, in no uncertain terms, is no.
we both grew up in the dub religion.
Hell no. I also don't understand the logic in it, Nathan Natas. (Nice username, I get it...) I want my kids to start out with an *advantage*, not a disadvantage.
Teaching them to fear involvement with the world or to turn their notes up at them is WRONG.
my local public radio station today had a piece about dia de los muertos, and after all this time, i was surprised to learn that this day was actually moved to november by the spanish from september.
so much for all that "halloween/all saints/day of the dead celebrates the flood!
" nonsense.
Few things surprise me about that crazy guy anymore lol
my local public radio station today had a piece about dia de los muertos, and after all this time, i was surprised to learn that this day was actually moved to november by the spanish from september.
so much for all that "halloween/all saints/day of the dead celebrates the flood!
" nonsense.
My local public radio station today had a piece about Dia de Los Muertos, and after all this time, I was surprised to learn that this day was actually moved to November by the Spanish from September.
So much for all that "Halloween/All Saints/Day of the Dead celebrates the Flood!" nonsense.
I also have had genuinely fun conversations with coworkers and customers about Halloween. My wife, it should be noted, recently said that if there's any holiday she would celebrate, it's Halloween. Because it's fun!
Then the radio program shifted to a couple of paranormal investigators and then an author who wrote a book about werewolves in Wisconsin. I readily place myself in the skeptic category. There's plenty we don't know, but I'm not about to allow the Bible or the Watchtower fill the gaps.
Certainly nothing in these paranormal stories coincides with an evil organization of demons that know the time is short. Not one bit of it. And the vast majority of it is merely psychological. People are primed and ready to believe this stuff. And then there's stuff about EMF from old electronics, sleep apnea, sleep paralysis, etc.
So meh. Have fun and be safe everybody.
several years ago, i was introduced to a "wonderful" company called fortune hi tech marketing by a brother and his wife.
they had been introduced by a former sheriff who claims he had researched the company and found no leins or judgments, and that former sheriff had been brought in by a pastor.
you can read what happened with fhtm on wikipedia if you so desire.. this whole new idea of multilevel marketing had my brain reeling, though, and soon enough, i actually signed up with none other than prepaid legal.
I think the biggest scammer of all Jw kingdumb was the real estate no money down books and tapes by Dave Del Dotto. He was on TV infomercials in the 80.s and 90,s, till he got taken down by the FTC for making false claims . Today he sells wine from his vineyard in Napa valley. Google his name and read up on his scams as a JW.
Wow... Just wow. Considering a certain friend of mine, I may be only a couple degrees away from that guy for all I know. Maybe, maybe not.
several years ago, i was introduced to a "wonderful" company called fortune hi tech marketing by a brother and his wife.
they had been introduced by a former sheriff who claims he had researched the company and found no leins or judgments, and that former sheriff had been brought in by a pastor.
you can read what happened with fhtm on wikipedia if you so desire.. this whole new idea of multilevel marketing had my brain reeling, though, and soon enough, i actually signed up with none other than prepaid legal.
@cyberjesus, technically, that is the difference between MLM and a pyramid. In practice, recruitment always trumps selling the crappy product that nobody wants.