JW aren't going on TV to preach, everybody has their own beliefs. So they wouldn't beleive the org anway. Probably no one would watch it but believers.
Then why preach? I thought this was a lifesaving work.
i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..
JW aren't going on TV to preach, everybody has their own beliefs. So they wouldn't beleive the org anway. Probably no one would watch it but believers.
Then why preach? I thought this was a lifesaving work.
so i just learned about adam's first wife, made from the same dirt as him.
some of the google images that came up made me want to hurl.. if you're not aware, there is talmudic lore about adam having a wife named lilith who left him after he wouldn't submit to her, and what's more, she is pictured as the serpent who tempted eve.
a lot of that seemed to develop in the middle ages though.
So I just learned about Adam's first wife, made from the same dirt as him. Some of the Google images that came up made me want to hurl.
If you're not aware, there is Talmudic lore about Adam having a wife named Lilith who left him after he wouldn't submit to her, and what's more, she is pictured as the serpent who tempted Eve. A lot of that seemed to develop in the middle ages though. She's also a succubus and an apparently common figure in Wicca and Thelema and such. Iunno, the whole thing's weird.
The Hebrew "lilith" is used only once in Bible canon, at Isaiah 34:14 as the screeching owl or night creature. She basically sounds like a really old version of La Llorona to me, right down to the bit about killing little kids.
So yeah. That's the kind of superstition a lot of people put their faith in. Pardon me, I'm gonna go have some nightmares now...
several months ago i approached a nice young couple who were standing by a jw literature stand in my local community.
they were pleasant and polite but incredibly stilted when it came to answering my "innocent" questions about their beliefs.
this was the occasion of jws featuring the article headlined "is religion dying?".
I also don't completely buy it that religion is "dying". There are many religious and spiritual people in the world, and there are many spiritualists in the world who are open to belief in ghosts and such without a strong religious commitment. For every Dawkins and Sam "End of Faith" Harris and Aron-Ra, there is someone like Joel Osteen and Deepak Chopra writing bestsellers. With so much trauma today, it is inevitable that many people find comfort in some religious belief.
several months ago i approached a nice young couple who were standing by a jw literature stand in my local community.
they were pleasant and polite but incredibly stilted when it came to answering my "innocent" questions about their beliefs.
this was the occasion of jws featuring the article headlined "is religion dying?".
Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position.
things seem to go bump in the night.
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any idea if i should talk to the elder or what they would say?.
Lol @scratchme1010
The Catholic Church is a step up in that field unless there is a GB member who have experience in getting rid of Demons. I believe the lower elders are not qualified for that task.
Does Shepherd The Flock cover hauntings at any time? I'm mildly curious.
Also this thread is interestingly timed, because my wife and I just watched this:
What a crock. Even when the "demon" is talking through her, "it" apparently messes up and has to cover itself. Oooh, it said Cain... Even though hominids have been killing each other for hundreds of thousands of years and Cain is a character in a 6th century myth.
Her superhuman strength even at 80 pounds? The girl was a tragic physiological mess. She had no inhibition. Physically, I need only point out certain martial arts masters of small stature who could channel their chi and rip trees right up out of the ground. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
Methodological naturalist here. Spiritualism can go to hell.
things seem to go bump in the night.
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any idea if i should talk to the elder or what they would say?.
@rebelfighter: Yep. A local ghost hunter in my area was on public radio for Halloween talking about cases like that. He mentioned that EMF from old electronics can have very strange effects at times, even including the sensation that you've been touched. I find that easy to believe, because I've worked in places where I was required to carry a radio, and I always always felt when there was a call about to come in. My mother, while mourning for my dead father with the old tube TV running for hours, said she felt an angel's hand on her shoulder.
In very very rare instances, they're stumped and offer to do a ritual to "expel" whatever's there, but even then, he noted that the ritual is a psychological placebo.
can jws read publications by other churches?
or by atheists?
i've always heard these are apostate materials.
I don't get the fear either. If an idea is so powerful that it will "take you out of the truth" then what is the truth? What judge considers only one side of the evidence?
Nonsense.
things seem to go bump in the night.
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any idea if i should talk to the elder or what they would say?.
It's not haunted and an elder won't help at all. Feel free to contact an actual ghost hunter in your area if he seems skeptical enough. He'll probably tell you what the noise is.
i remember when i was about 17, i started shunning an older brother because he was disfellowshipped.
when i graduated high school, he pulled me aside and said " i know you are not supposed to talk to me, but i want you to have this" it was a gift that he had custom made for me.
i was so blown away, we never even had a real conversation before.
A lot of care was taken as my father was on his deathbed, so yes. I've had genuine friends as well, as much as they seem to despise me now. Good times, bad times.
The nicest ones never seemed to be the "strongest" though. They'd come in late, they were rarely in service, and they would be the first to help you in a jam. Funny.
if the ransom was paid at the time of jesus' death (mark 15:45, matthew 20:28, 1 timothy 2:6, hebrews 2:9), then why weren't the effects of adamic sin (sickness & death) reversed at that time?.
it seems to me that either:- the payment of the ransom was premature.
- god was not satisfied with the payment of the ransom; it was not sufficient to make up for adam's & eve's so-called "sin".hasn't god extracted enough from mankind as payment for adam's & eve's "sin" given the billions of persons who have lived and died?.
I heard a theory that Genesis 3 may have been written by Ezra after the Babylonian exile. The theory goes that the Jews were in their promised land, they sinned, and God punished them by removing them from their promised land, similar to Genesis 3.
This was on a recent Aron-Ra livestream.