Posts by schnell

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So when will the Society produce a comedy video on JWorg?

by stuckinarut2 in

so according to 1 tim 1:11 jehovah is supposed to be a "happy god".. so when will we see "his people" produce a comedy video of some sort for the website?.

if you could propose an idea or storyline, what would it be?.

schnell

Hey guys! Remember when God gave the Assyrians hemorrhoids?! LOLOLOLOL.

Hey guys! Remember when Elijah said Ba'al must be on the privy?! WHAT A RIOT!

Hey guys! Remember when Boaz woke up with a lady in his bed? HOHO WOULDN'T WANNA BE HIM! LOL!

-_-

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So when will the Society produce a comedy video on JWorg?

by stuckinarut2 in

so according to 1 tim 1:11 jehovah is supposed to be a "happy god".. so when will we see "his people" produce a comedy video of some sort for the website?.

if you could propose an idea or storyline, what would it be?.

The problem is that Jehovah's witnesses are ripe for mockery and satire. The lame sort of in-jokes and levity that you see in assemblies would result in mockery and satire as quickly as you can say "YouTube".

Ya know who I can hardly stand now? Brian Regan. I have nothing against Brian Regan. I'm sure he's a nice guy, and he seems like he could be. But he's like the goto stand-up comedy that JWs put on Netflix or YouTube when they have people over.

One brother said straight up, "Jim Gaffigan? He cusses doesn't he?" And thus he chose Brian Regan and his wild onstage antics, which are fine for what they are but are also clearly a clean comedy niche.

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Knock knock."Who's there? Two elders!!

by Darkknight757 in

so today was a cold and snowy day in my neck of the woods and the wife and i were just chilling around the house waiting to go to the church tonight for a candle lighting service when lo and behold we get a knock on the door.

yup, 2 elders from my old hall.

i figured they were fishing for some time so i invited them in and gave them some coffee and we talked about everything that happened and why we walk away from the jw's.

schnell

If they look it up, they might say that Genesis 1 is written from the perspective of an earthly observer (for some reason) and that there were "swathing bands" that obscured the light that was already there... Eh, they won't understand it, but yeah.

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Possible new light on 70 years

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i may be reading more into this than is there, but here is what i've spotted from today's watchtower study (oct 2016 study edition) page 14 paragraph 8. concerning daniel it says "thus, some 70 years after his arrival in babylon, he was still known by his hebrew name" referring to an event in the first year of darius ie 539/538 bce.

however, according to the wtbts chronology daniel went to babylon in 617 bce - more like 80 years earlier.

could this (finally) be a step towards ditching 607?.

schnell

If they just did the same doctrine but moved it up 20 years -- 587 BCE to 1934 CE and ditch 1914 -- that would have at least spared them the overlapping generations nonsense.

But, eh. Too much egg on the face.

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So I bought a Harold Camping book.

by schnell in

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https://www.amazon.com/1994-harold-camping/dp/0533103681.

i found this at goodwill along with volume 2 of the mahabharata.

call me eclectic.. i first learned about camping in 2011, when i saw his ridiculous billboard on i-8 in san diego about the world ending that december.

schnell

Camping died in December of 2013. I am due to make corrections for accuracy's sake, and I apologize for not doing so sooner. My mistake.

Camping predicted Judgment Day for September 6, 1994. I previously wrote September 15.

Camping later predicted the world would end on October 21, 2011. I previously wrote December of 2011.

Camping discusses a day for a year on page 451 of "1994?", and endorses the idea as scriptural. Don't they all.

By the way. Just in case it wasn't at all obvious for anyone, I didn't send any money to Family Ministry or Family Radio. The book was $1.99 at a second hand thrift store. It probably cost too much.

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So I bought a Harold Camping book.

by schnell in

jw
friends

https://www.amazon.com/1994-harold-camping/dp/0533103681.

i found this at goodwill along with volume 2 of the mahabharata.

call me eclectic.. i first learned about camping in 2011, when i saw his ridiculous billboard on i-8 in san diego about the world ending that december.

schnell

Oh yes, Russell's days with the Second Adventist movement are well documented and admitted. Jehovah's witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists, in terms of evolution, are Millerites.

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wt on a slide, " 1914's generation is not only overlapping, but also composite.

by prologos in

doctrines projected by wt writers can be compared to the slides in the old carousel slide shows, the jw audience was kept in the dark, but the next images' bright filtered new light had their rapt attention.

often these doctrine images came around again but modified, often totally changed, turned upside down.

think superior authorities, resurrection ----, .

schnell

2114? Why that's just 2 years after

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The Evils of Aluminum

by NeonMadman in

aluminum was an issue that became a real “tempest in a teapot” for the watchtower.

it influenced their teaching for almost 50 years and, frankly, created an impression among observers that their members were off-the-wall fanatics.

for all those years, the golden age and other watchtower publications took the position that aluminum cookware and utensils were one of the great health hazards of the 20th century.

schnell

It's pronounced Aluminium, not Aluminum (which to by Brit ears, sounds like someone with a stroke trying to say Aluminium.

I will now pronounce it aluminio, just to spite you. ;P Language evolves in part by misspelling and mispronouncing, or maybe I'm just ornery.

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So I bought a Harold Camping book.

by schnell in

jw
friends

https://www.amazon.com/1994-harold-camping/dp/0533103681.

i found this at goodwill along with volume 2 of the mahabharata.

call me eclectic.. i first learned about camping in 2011, when i saw his ridiculous billboard on i-8 in san diego about the world ending that december.

schnell

There was at least one suicide due to the failure of Camping's 2011 prediction. Many people gave their life savings to his company, and got what in return?

I agree, Finkelstein. As I woke up, I noticed Jehovah's witnesses make a lot of the same arguments in certain topics as "Christendom". I expected a bit more distinction, and there is that in some regards, but how do I differentiate between one end-of-days crackpot and another when they're both citing the same things? Likewise for creationism.

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So I bought a Harold Camping book.

by schnell in

jw
friends

https://www.amazon.com/1994-harold-camping/dp/0533103681.

i found this at goodwill along with volume 2 of the mahabharata.

call me eclectic.. i first learned about camping in 2011, when i saw his ridiculous billboard on i-8 in san diego about the world ending that december.

schnell

https://www.amazon.com/1994-Harold-Camping/dp/0533103681

I found this at Goodwill along with Volume 2 of the Mahabharata. Call me eclectic.

I first learned about Camping in 2011, when I saw his ridiculous billboard on I-8 in San Diego about the world ending that December. I eventually looked him up and learned that he'd made a few such predictions by that time.

The title of this book is hilarious for anyone living today. It might be even funnier for someone born on September 15, 1994. Because that's the day that Camping predicted the end of history.

Camping made these predictions under the following familiar assumptions:

The Bible is the inspired and inerrant word of God
Science is subordinate to the Bible
Let scripture interpret scripture
Stuff about Daniel and Revelation and Ezekiel and a day for a year and other reinterpretations.

All too familiar, right?

In his conclusion, Camping reiterated his prediction for September 15, 1994 and added that as thorough as he was, he may well have missed something. He probably hadn't, but maybe there was something...

I think I know what it is, Harold. I think a lot of us have known for a while.

Could it be, Harold, that every one of those assumptions is incorrect?

Could it be that the Bible is an anthology written by disparate men across hundreds of years and edited and canonized later?

Could it be that science, then, is NOT subordinate to the Bible at all and that assuming such actually violates the scientific method? Could it be that we benefit more from science than we ever did from the Bible?

Could it be that scripture CANNOT always interpret scripture because that would assume a uniform context which the Bible, an anthology written by disparate men over hundreds of years in varying sociopolitical environments, does not have? Could it be that letting scripture interpret scripture makes you a fool and a false prophet?

Could it be that Daniel and Revelation and Ezekiel are a lot of malarkey? Seriously, look at the predictions Ezekiel makes for Tyre and consider what actually happened to Tyre. Look at the record that people have for trying to read these supposed prophecies into their own times. Failed prediction after failed prediction after failed prediction.

There are more than enough Harold Campings in the world. I don't have to wish them well, as they get more than enough from their followers. But mankind has predicted the second coming of Christ and the end of days in their time for 20 centuries now. I don't anticipate that it'll completely stop, but 20 centuries of this is enough.