so a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
Some people live in a construct where fact is subjective and logical deduction is washed away like grease on Teflon with one simple card: "You weren't there."
These people have already bought the premise of their party's circular reasoning, and they feel they have an interest in their party being right.
Everyone else gets to deal with it.
i can't be too sure, because i didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our co visit.. it's been a while since i last had elders at my door.
last time that happened, i posted about it, so it was only a few months.. i really don't want to talk with them.
is there a chance i'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if i don't?.
However, I'd like to ask you, do you feel that there are unfinished business between you and them? I ask because on one hand you are not answering the door, but on the other you are mentioning things you'd like to tell them.
I know that as we build confidence and a life outside the WT we become less and less interested in whatever they have to say, so I guess I'm asking where do you feel you are in relationship to them as of now? I think that matters since the degree of attachment (or detachment) does affect your reaction to them.
In relation to them, I feel that I've outgrown them and seen them for what they are. Rationally, I know they'll continue on. I'd prefer to be left alone and for them to go away, and failing the former, I'd love a conversation with someone rational and curious who'll listen but I won't proactively seek it out in person. In all probability, I know it won't happen. They all seem tied up in the cult.
At the same time, I lost all my friends I had for years. So many nights out, so many battle scars, so many drunken adventures, and now that we're all married off, I'm cast out because I pointed out the cult. I bring up that we are married off, because newly wed JW men can get downright obnoxious with zeal. Suddenly, everyone wants to reach out and be an elder. I can remember conversations we had before they were married when these same friends expressed hesitance and reluctance at reaching out. Now they're all zealous, and at possibly the most academically anorexic period in Watchtower history. Way to go, gents.
A loss is a loss. If I opened my mouth to talk about the weather, they probably wouldn't listen to me now. Naturally, I'm trying to fill that void in other areas (online, at work, etc.). Is that unfinished business? Oh, it's just a set-up for a future adventure, whatever that may be.
i can't be too sure, because i didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our co visit.. it's been a while since i last had elders at my door.
last time that happened, i posted about it, so it was only a few months.. i really don't want to talk with them.
is there a chance i'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if i don't?.
Well, it wasn't JWs. Phew.
I stepped out for my Saturday afternoon walk, and this fell at my feet.
i can't be too sure, because i didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our co visit.. it's been a while since i last had elders at my door.
last time that happened, i posted about it, so it was only a few months.. i really don't want to talk with them.
is there a chance i'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if i don't?.
In all seriousness, if the elders cared about my family or our associating with one another as family, they wouldn't have disfellowshipped my brother after he gave his wife the divorce and then baptized her in the midst of that divorce when nobody else was up for baptism.
They literally put their precious numbers ahead of my family. So, yeah, even on a personal note, fuck them.
i can't be too sure, because i didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our co visit.. it's been a while since i last had elders at my door.
last time that happened, i posted about it, so it was only a few months.. i really don't want to talk with them.
is there a chance i'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if i don't?.
But hey, the upshot of calling us brothers and sisters is to replace family members who leave the Borg. I'd tell the groups that, too.
I know, I'm being deliberately over-optimistic and snarky. In reality, I'm just not answering the damn door.
i can't be too sure, because i didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our co visit.. it's been a while since i last had elders at my door.
last time that happened, i posted about it, so it was only a few months.. i really don't want to talk with them.
is there a chance i'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if i don't?.
Realistically I wouldn't even do that, don't quote Scriptures at all because your just implicating yourself for grounds of apostasy in their minds.
And at that point, I'd speak with Unitarian Universalists and Freethinkers groups instead. I believe getting caught doing so today would incriminate me as well. And I'd tell them what happened.
"Yes, I got officially, bureaucratically shunned for pointing out scripture to them. Funny, right?"
Maybe even the newspaper. "AREA MAN SHUNNED BY CULT AFTER READING SCRIPTURE". Okay, maybe the Onion.
i can't be too sure, because i didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our co visit.. it's been a while since i last had elders at my door.
last time that happened, i posted about it, so it was only a few months.. i really don't want to talk with them.
is there a chance i'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if i don't?.
Express yourself elsewhere!
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Oh yeah. I don't believe in stifling my own expression just to keep them satisfied. The cult is theirs. I've already debated an elder once, wherein he concluded, "At some point, you have to decide there is a god." Brilliant.
My strategy is to play nice, avoid where ever possible, end conversations as gracefully as possible, and bring up Deuteronomy 18:20-22 when pushed.
i can't be too sure, because i didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our co visit.. it's been a while since i last had elders at my door.
last time that happened, i posted about it, so it was only a few months.. i really don't want to talk with them.
is there a chance i'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if i don't?.
I can't be too sure, because I didn't answer, but my mother had called me this morning and said this week is our CO visit.
It's been a while since I last had elders at my door. Last time that happened, I posted about it, so it was only a few months.
I really don't want to talk with them. Is there a chance I'll be announced as "no longer one of..." after he's left if I don't?
She had a career in tv and I'm sure that helped a lot in not only getting this on tv but just getting noticed in the first place. Scientology has big names in it so people care. Few care about JWs.
There are more JW celebrities and celebrities favorable to JWs than ex-JW-now-apostate celebrities.
Seriously, you have one of the ladies who was on the View, and who else?
a bit of an update, last weekend was my great grandmothers funeral, now, she was never a jw, and never was going to be, no matter how hard my mother, and grandmother tried to preach to her, she was the type of person that would kindly accept a wt or a book, but she wouldn't bother reading them.. anyways, she was a great wonderful and inspiring woman, the funeral was extremely sad, she had been a school teacher for over 35 years and a member of various clubs, so there were a lot of folks besides family that attended.. well, anyways i was there and so was my jw mother, stepfather, and grandmother, we were cordial, didn't talk about anything jw related because, it was great grandmothers funeral, not really a time to discuss how i am an evil sinner, or how i've escaped the org by avoiding df'ing, right?
wrong, as i'm sitting waiting for the service to begin, a lady shows up, now- i have known this woman for a long time, apparently she baby sat me as a small child, (like i remember?
) so she isn't someone i was ever close with, but knew of her or when she was around would say hi to and make small talk.. to give you a tid-bit on her personality though, she is one of those crazy jw's.. she claims to have been possessed by a demon, very very wacky on the prophesies, or gb talks, etc.
My condolences. I am very sorry, and you sound very inspired by your great grandmother.
She goes on and on and on and on about how the battlegrounds have already started to align, and if I am aware of the new arrangement, (I said yes so she'd shut up, but no I don't know what the new arrangement is, can anyone tell me?)
Battlegrounds? She's nuts. I think this is an allusion to Trump and May and Putin, but it isn't something she or many honest Witnesses have considered very soberly. The Watchtower predictions aren't happening.
As for a new arrangement, maybe she's referring to faders being considered DA'ed? I don't know.
Crazy people are crazy.
