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  Randy Wall case linked to on JWdotORG

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  under "breaking news" on jwdotorg, there is a link to a court case in canada that was just resolved on may 31st.. https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/17101/index.do.

  it's in regard to him being disfellowshipped, and the court says they can't get involved.

  jwdotorg gives this statement about their victory:.

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  AbusedandPissed

  StephaneLaliberte

  The court in it's decision actually brought up shunning and acknowledged that it could be very distressing.

  [31] Had Mr. Wall been able to show that he suffered some detriment or prejudice to his legal rights arising from the Congregation’s membership decision, he could have sought redress under appropriate private law remedies. This is not to say that the Congregation’s actions had no impact on Mr. Wall; I accept his testimony that it did. Rather, the point is that in the circumstances of this case, the negative impact does not give rise to an actionable claim. As such there is no basis for the courts to intervene in the Congregation’s decision-making process; in other words, the matters in issue fall outside the courts’ jurisdiction.
  
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  Randy Wall case linked to on JWdotORG

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  under "breaking news" on jwdotorg, there is a link to a court case in canada that was just resolved on may 31st.. https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/17101/index.do.

  it's in regard to him being disfellowshipped, and the court says they can't get involved.

  jwdotorg gives this statement about their victory:.

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  AbusedandPissed

  lastmanstanding that is just called assault and that is a crime.
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  Randy Wall case linked to on JWdotORG

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  under "breaking news" on jwdotorg, there is a link to a court case in canada that was just resolved on may 31st.. https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/17101/index.do.

  it's in regard to him being disfellowshipped, and the court says they can't get involved.

  jwdotorg gives this statement about their victory:.

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  AbusedandPissed

  How is this a narrowly crafted decision? The court actually made it very broad and far-reaching. The court ruled as a precedent that it is not for civil courts to interfere with the internal operations including discipline of its members and who they choose to allow to be members. The court ruled that the only time the court can interfere is if there was a legally established legal right, such as a contract or property rights.
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  Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Baker Who Refused to Bake Cake for Gay Couple

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  seems like such an obviously correct decision to overturn the previous overreach - it should never have been necessary to go to the supreme court but happened because the rights of the religious were being ignored.. as the fundamental level, no one should be able to compel you to work for them or to provide services that go against your beliefs, and certainly not have the government be able to force you to comply.. if this was allowed there would be so many unreconcilable situations that would clog up courts over nonsense.. i also have little patience for these activists that intentionally look to be offended.

  it really doesn't do their cause any good to go round looking to make trouble for people.

  it's also misguided because it ends up strengthening religious rights over effectively stupid issues.. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/supreme-court-sides-with-baker-who-turned-away-gay-couple.html.

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  AbusedandPissed

  This was a narrowly written opinion. It did not come close to answering the question of if someone could do this on religious grounds. The court only found in this case that the board that initially ruled on this showed bias against the baker and that he was not able to receive a fair hearing.

  BTW the court did use a JW case in their decision.
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  Tacoma Dome regional conventions

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the spot where most of washington state and even parts of oregon have had thier regional conventions.

  there would be as many as 4 conventions during the summer.

  this year none.

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  AbusedandPissed

  The Tacoma Dome website does talk about the renovations. There are no events at the dome from the second part of June to the second to the last day in August.
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  Governing Body Just got Spanked

  by Bill Covert in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yesterday in watchtower documents there was published "flawed decrees conceal criminals.

  barbara anderson examined the rnwt revision of lev.5:1 and revealed the wtb&ts to be deceptive as to applying it to congregation members being required to "tattle" on their brothers to expose sin.

  she shows that is just not so as lev.5:1 has nothing to do with tattling.

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  AbusedandPissed

  Actually, Barbara Anderson is incorrect in one way. HIPAA did not come into effect until 1996 and the article that she refers to in the beginning is from 1987 prior to any laws requiring the protection of health records. It may have been a policy of the hospital but not of federal law. I am not sure of any laws prior to HIPAA.
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  WTBTS aka WTPA

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we're all used to calling the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania by the abbreviations wtbts or wts, but in a recent jwdotorg article, they consistently refer to the original pennsylvania corporation as wtpa.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/jehovahs-witnesses-seizure-of-property-appeal-case/.

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  AbusedandPissed

  In the US there is 8 main corporations used by Watchtower.
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

  april 12, 2018. .

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  AbusedandPissed

  It is actually not against the law in most cases to assist the police with an investigation. You cannot actively obstruct an investigation but it is not illegal to just not engage in it.
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

  april 12, 2018. .

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  AbusedandPissed

  Everyone does realize the press release says that they are only granted the records for those two victims and that is it. Not for all records.
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  Nephew’s JW Fiancée Begins Conversion to Judaism Due to Passover Date

  by Rabbi Midge in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it’s been a while since i posted, but for those who remember, i came on here to get some information about jehovah’s witnesses because i have a nephew who was getting engaged to a girl who was a jehovah’s witness and, along with some other sites, i was recommended this one.. since then we’ve been busy with passover and jehovah’s witnesses have had something they call the memorial of christ’s death (i believe i have that right).

  this clashing of the two observances apparently did more for this girl than anything else i ever saw in our months of conversations with her.. respectfully, jews do not proselytize.

  these are people who, of their own desire, “join the tribe” after some years of study and practice--something this girl has just begun to do.

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  AbusedandPissed

  JWs count the days from the observable new moon not from the astronomical new moon that modern Passover is based off.